China: have you tried not bombing them?
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maybe stopping the oil addiction was not only for the environment, but a matter of national defense.
I think there were intelligence officials that echoed this same sentiment years ago.
There's no reason for this oil dependency,
Right wing nationalists push for energy independence Environmentalists push for not destroying the place we live Healt advocates push for better air quality ...
but Oil shareholders like money so fuck everyone else.
Imagine for a moment if the fortune spent on the failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was instead invested in reducing our dependence on oil.
US probably shouldn't fuck with people who got the leverage on the economy, but alas, common sense isn't always available when conservative is ruling.
given how rare common sense is, it no longer works as an expression
Everyone knew Iran would shut the straight, this is all just subterfuge for loosening restrictions on Russian oil purchases because "we have no other options".
common sense isn't always available when conservative is ruling.
It wasn't when liberals were ruling either (see: Gulf of Aden). This is an imperialism thing, not a conservative thing (though conservatives are worse about it).
Iran has got jack for leverage. There is a binary choice here:
A) Shutdown the Straight. Get fucking wrecked by the US military, or a coalition.
B) Posture but don't actually shut it down.
You don't fuck with international trade.
In the meantime, China is going all in on EVs thus reducing their dependence on oil…. Gee, wonder what leverage that gives them.
China imports 1.3 to 1.8 million barrels of oil per day from Iran, roughly 16% of its total. It's not just oil either, China is a heavy importer of other Iranian petrochemicals.
China's EVs give them very little leverage at this point.
america helped israel so now China has to help america. Donald Trump better say Thank you.
I’m confused… China is dependent on oil imports flowing through the strait of Hormuz. Much more so than the US is. In fact the US maintains a naval presence in the region specifically so they’d have the capability to block that strait and starve China of oil. China produces very little oil of their own, though they have coal up the wazoo. Blocking that strait is the US’s main card to play if China invade Taiwan.
It's a good thing they kept coal alive. Can't wait for my coal driven Ford soccer mom car to release. Little Jimmy and little Linda in the back seat might have to get their hands dirty throwing fistfuls of coal in the furnace, but it will be good for them. Builds character!
How about moving to non-fossil alternatives? Like 4 decades ago? Gee that would've been a great idea.
I hope Iran waits until a couple months before the midterms to close the Strait. Nothing like sky-high oil prices to swing an election.
Reading these comments seriously makes me wonder how many of y'all read the article. The US doesn't need Iranian oil but China DOES.
A dwindling supply of oil through the Strait and rising oil prices damages China and buoys the United States. If China doesn't want to put any effort into keeping the Strait open it's going to hurt them far more than it will hurt anyone else.
China gets their Iranian oil from trains not boats.
This is not the US trying to help China.
Why wouldn't China just cut a deal with Iran for access the way they did with the Houthis? It turns out you can cut deals with people when you aren't bombing them or supplying arms to the people who are bombing them.
"I encourage the Chinese government in Beijing to call them [Iran] about that, because they heavily depend on the Straits of Hormuz for their oil," Rubio had said in an interview with Fox News on Sunday. "If they [close the Straits]... it will be economic suicide for them. And we retain options to deal with that, but other countries should be looking at that as well. It would hurt other countries' economies a lot worse than ours." Around 20% of the world's oil passes through the Strait of Hormuz, with major oil and gas producers in the Middle East using the waterway to transport energy from the region. Any attempt to disrupt operations in the Strait could send global oil prices skyrocketing. Oil prices jumped briefly when trading began on Monday, with Brent climbing to $81.40 a barrel. However, it then slid back to around $78, up 1.4% on the day.
"We made a huge mess, you clean it up."
US attacks Iran
China condemns it
Iran threatens to close major oil route
US asks China to help prevent the closure
We Americans look like bigger assholes every fucking day.
the American government really are assholes
"C'mon, China, there's still plenty of room for more dicks in this hornet nest!"
Close it. This insanity needs to have a high price. Take gas to $10 a gallon.

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