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[–] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The negotiators argued that Republicans’ “flat refusal” to move on Democrats’ earlier proposals made clear that “this is the best possible offer we could secure.”

You fucking twats

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    The best possible offer is "we give up because the Nazis turned out to be stubborn"? Absolutely useless. They gave up on the one thing that was revealing the Republicans' real nature to MAGA voters.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    After a sweep in elections that took place less than a week prior.

    This isn't a bunch of deluded idiots acting on principle, it's a stage-managed operation to scuttle the fight for healthcare, and it goes right to the top of the Democrat party.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Fetterman is already a traitor to his constituents, so no shock there. But the rest are cowards.

    "They are steadfast that they won't negotiate on the health care credits."

    Yes, and they have no way to justify that stance, particularly while people are furloughed and going without benefits. The stronger they hold that posture, the more it highlights that this is their stance and the more they show who they are to the people that can still be saved from MAGA madness.

    "People are hurting and going without their SNAP benefits"

    Yes, a problem which is entirely of their own making with absolutely zero justification and in open defiance of the law and the courts.

    "We've guaranteed a vote on the tax credits in December."

    A completely empty gesture. You have already said that they were stead fast against it. They would not even negotiate on it while you had leverage. Now you have no leverage. The outcome is already clear and your guarantee means shit.

    "We included in the deal that all the fired furloughed workers will be rehired and all furloughed workers will be given back pay."

    So, backpay for furloughed workers is already supposed to be the law. And I'm pretty sure that firing them during furlough is probably also illegal, or at the very least it's simply unprecedented behavior. If they even follow through on this part of the deal, and I'm not sure that they will, A) these are not wins for the Dems, these are a wash. Like your bully steals your lunch money and a teacher makes him give it back, but otherwise gives no consequences for the theft in the first place. The consequences of the theft were corrected for now, but the root cause, the fucking thief, has not been corrected. B) Absolutely nothing about these goons' behavior has been in good faith. And all of these agreements, ultimately, end up going through Trump, anyway, who doesn't give a fuck about your deal with anyone and would love to screw you over. So... what did you gain?

    You are cowards. You negotiated with terrorists. That's what they are. Ideologues who were intentionally, callously, and even gleefully inflicting pain on the American people even before the shut down, to instill fear and ensure their ends. You finally had leverage on them, though. The shutdown was painful, but it was a pain for them most of all and it was to ultimately prevent even more pain for everyone to come. But you blew it. To save face and end temporary pain suffered by a few, you have guaranteed greater pain on all of us including those you think you saved. You'll pat yourselves on the back for ending the shut down and then you'll pretend like what's to come was in no way your doing. But it will be. Get fucked, all of you.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Just left messages for both my Senators begging them to change Dem leadership. I know it'll do nothing, but it was that or start drinking again.

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  • [–] [S] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Democrat party once again performing its true function as a diversion pipe to dump energy which should go to building a real opposition party directly down the drain. They selected a subset of liars & scumbags who are retiring and/or are not up for re-election next round to get the job done. The fecklessness and worthlessness of the Democrat party couldn't be any clearer, it's on full display right here, right now. Read their statements in the article. Every one of these pieces of shit needs to be purged.

    Now watch as the GOP reneges on its "promise" to hold a "vote" on the health care subsidies in due time.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    The revolution will be bloodless because dems are feckless fucking idiots.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Jeanne Shaheen won't run for reelection in 2026.

    John Fetterman, Maggie Hassan, and Catherine Cortez Masto's terms will end in January 2029.

    Everyone else has even longer left, from what I saw.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    John Fetterman can eat shit, fucking loser

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Fucking Fetterman.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    FUCK DICK DURBIN FUCK DICK DURBIN FUCK DICK DURBIN FUCK DICK DURBIN FUCK DICK DURBAN FUCK DICK DURBAN FUCK DICK DURBAN FUCK DICK DURBIN FUCK DICK DURBAN FUCK DICK DURBIN

    FUCKING ASS WIPE NEEDS TO GOD DAMN RETIRE SOONER

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    [–] 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    They were picked to vote this way beause their seats are either not up for election next year or they're retiring. Schumer masterminded this but voted no himself in a form of fake resistance. We have to punish more than just this list or nothing changes. It's a big setup and they're trying to play us for fools.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Schumer masterminded this

    Bruh...

    Schumer isn't a "mastermind" anymore than trump is. I'm not defending him, I'm saying he's too stupid and ineffective for your theory.

    Him and other neoliberal "leadership" were just middlemen between a corrupt DNC and elected Dem politicians. If people didn't vote how the corrupt DNC wanted, then they cut off funding to the whole state party.

    They "led" like terrorists.

    Tim Kaine was one of those shitty corrupt DNC chairs, and got paid back by being one of Hillary's VP picks.

    If anyone masterminded this, it was him. He's a bigger problem then any household name in the Dem party. And is 100% ok letting republicans win general elections to prevent progressives from getting in office. He'd 100% sabotage the party/movement to stop progressives from gaining ground.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Well that's...a bit conspiracy heavy I suppose.

    The other explanation is that they are from states harder hit from the shutdown, and this essentially gets everyone paid right now and sets up this vote from two weeks from now where they can just shut it down again if the GOP doesn't pony up.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    We have confirmation from other articles that Schumer organized this, so why did he vote no himself? Don't fall for it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I haven’t seen those. Where should be looking?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/

    Here’s what occurred. It has been widely assumed that the group of eight mostly centrist Senate Democrats, who have been looking to broker a hollow deal on Republican terms, were freelancing. In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/schumer-is-no-longer-effective-dems-outraged-over-shutdown-deal-00644253

    Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) accused Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of being ineffective and called for his removal.

    In this article Seth Moulton calls for Schumers removal putting the blame on him, because he knows what Chuck was doing. He's far from the only Democrat calling our Schumer specifically for this.

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5bpyndmlp2u

    Clip from faux news

    KILMEADE: Schumer says he's voting no. Did you do this outside leadership?

    SHAHEEN: No. We kept leadership informed throughout.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.

    Uh...

    That first link definitely says that, but it doesn't actually back it up with anything...

    The second link is a politician accusing Schumer of being ineffective, which is 100% true...

    The third is fucking Faux News and just says Schumer was "informed"...

    Like, not only do none of those three links back up what you're saying, if anything they paint the picture that Schumer is ineffective and couldn't have done anything if he wanted. Which is the most likely explanation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Please. Schumer has been Republicans useful idiot for years. He's spineless when it comes to standing against them. Has been for years

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Schumer has been Republicans useful idiot for years. He’s spineless

    I'm not disagreeing with that...

    But that doesn't mean he's some fucking masteind that set this up.

    He's too incompetent to do really anything, and the 10 that voted with republicans didn't need anyone to convince them. Because they're as big, or bigger, pieces of shit than Schumer.

    Like, one of them is an ex DNC chair during some of the DNC's darkest times where we handed republicans a shit ton of seats to block progressives.

    I know Schumer is the household name and all, but nothing in that comment made logical sense or even accurately represented what the link articles were saying.

    We can't afford to just blame the easy targets, because that leaves the rel problems.

    Stop falling for fucking scape goats

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why did he vote no? For appearences.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I would assume that yes. The more progressive wing of democrats have been fed up with Chuck for a long time and so have a lot of the voters. Allowing riskier seats to have plausible deniability is the whole purpose of having the least risky seats be the ones to break. What worries me is Chuck is more than likely not the only one voting no now that there's enough yes votes but secretly in favor of it. How are we going to find those other people?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Fuck you Fetterman.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Democratic Sens. Dick Durbin, Jacky Rosen, John Fetterman and Catherine Cortez Masto. From bottom left: Democratic Sens. Jeanne Shaheen, Maggie Hassan and Tim Kaine, with independent Sen. Angus King.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You can't, at least not yet. They are all either not on the ballot in the midterms (because their term is longer), or have already announced retirement. They are betting on all this blowing over before they have to ask for votes again.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What I'm hearing is that we need to threaten the rest of the Democrats for failing to whip them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yup. While people are outraged at the few token Dem Senators who voted with Republicans those same people are totes OK with all the closed door dealing that got this vote to happen.

    Just in time for Senate vacation is just a coincidence and just bad optics.

    Republicans follow orders and fall in line. Democrats are supposed to not do that. But they keep doing so. Just like last time when train workers asked for help.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Kaine's a giant piece of shit, and has been since he was DNC chair, and when he got the payback of being Clinton's VP pick as payoff for running a corrupt DNC.

    All those shitty neolibs aren't going to stay in office, they only got to office by playing shitty politics. And now they don't have a corrupt DNC to back them in primaries.

    We're already seeing some "retire", but I think some are going to Cuomo and essentially become republicans. They never stood for anything except personal power, so they won't have any qualms changing the letter by their name.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Fuck you Dick Durbin you backstabbing coward.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So pissed as an IL resident. Dick Douchebag is not running for reelection so he doesn’t give a fuck.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    His office wasn't even taking voicemails when I tried calling. Fuck him.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I doubt it perfectly lined up that the only dems that caved were the ones retiring or not up for reelection for 5 years.

    All of them are complicit. All of them will need to be replaced. Even the ones that voted no. They can't be trusted.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    All that for nothing. Nothing.

    This party is dead to me.

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  • They're collaborators with the spinless Schumer, that's who they are.

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    Now there is a Christmas surprise of people not being able to afford health care NOR presents for their family for holidays.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Primary every last traitor

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    None of them have to run again in the next midterms, either because their six year term extends past 2026, or they are retiring. So the ones who pulled away to vote for this won't have to immediately explain it to their voters, and they are hoping people have short memories.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    There are fucking traitors is who they are

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fetterman said

    “Our party could be overplaying its hand,” he added. “I don’t think much anything has been accomplished for the last 40 days except a lot of chaos and a lot of upheaval.”

    Fucker gave up. All of them just gave up.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    https://archive.is/52TGW

    Sen. Angus King (I–Maine)

    Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D–Nev.)

    Sen. Jacky Rosen (D–Nev.)

    Sen. Maggie Hassan (D–N.H.)

    Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D–N.H.)

    Sen. Dick Durbin (D–Ill.)

    Sen. Tim Kaine (D–Va.)

    Sen. John Fetterman (D–Pa.)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    This term's rotating villains

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    DNC supported establishment canidates who drew the short straw this time when their masters told them to let the vote through

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