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[–] 89 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet there's some correlation there. After all, if you're religious you're a lot more likely to believe things told to you by a supposed authority figure. Still, correlation does not equal causation.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    My religion doesn't allow for me to have other gods - taking AI as a god here. I can accept what my God says without verification - but my God rarely speaks directly. There are a lot of people who say things in the name of my God, but they are not actually speaking for my God, they are just trying to scam people - they will get their reward in hell, but for now they get a lot of money from the scam.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    yeah not a fan of the most nefarious company currently in existence stating we all need to find religion.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This guy is a fucking idiot. Where do they find these people?

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "I think the secularists in Silicon Valley are filling the God-shaped hole in their heart with AGI," Palantir Chief Technology Officer Shyam Sankar said in an interview with the New York Times's Ross Douthat. "It's like, OK, the models get better. Why do you think that this cliff is going to happen where they somehow turn us into house cats?"

    What the fuck is he even saying? Is he saying secularists are embracing AGI or are they afraid of it?

    He also said that doomerism is a "fundraising shtick" where companies on the front lines of AI development "can say 'my technology is so powerful, it's going to lead to mass unemployment, so you better invest in me or you're going to be poor.'"

    This is nonsensical. The mass unemployment predictions are really aimed at the AI company customers who think they would get richer with fewer employees. The potentially unemployed don’t have significant money to invest in these scams.

    Where do they finds these people? But, also, fuck Business Insider and its shitty reporting.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm going in, hold me beer.

    He's saying the atheists are worried that AGI will come about and destroy us, the world, whatever. Religious people aren't worried because they already believe in God and know AGI won't replace him.

    Was I close?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The first sounds like kirkagard and Sarte. People have deep unfilled need. Both can be summarize as "it as a god shaped whole".

    Now people that thibk agi well be here soon and alter the world are treating it kind of like a god. Agi gives you meaning in life, gices you answer, etc etc.

    The rest sound like mush brain

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  • [+] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    They’re following the conservative playbook. If your ideas are shitty, equate opposition to them with opposition to religion (or patriotism).

    The added benefit is to set up their text generators as oracles and the arbiters of religious doctrine. I think I they actually want to control people with these things.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He really said "I find your lack of faith disturbing" huh?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    His Boss is GAY! That's a SIN Worthy of MURDER According to the People he's Talking to!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    It's because the AI surveillance's main target audience is ultra-religious dictators and their simps.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, people with an over-abundance of critical thinking skills (e.g. non-religious) would have a bit of healthy skepticism on the random text generators being outed as intelligent.

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    Are these guys serious, or just full "there is no truth"?

    Ironically, he sounds like an AI, sputting out what lever generative thought comes into his head.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Fuckin' Iteration X fucks...

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  • Looks like we got a volunteer for crucifixion

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    [–] 93 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh look: Another complete nutcase in a position of terrifying power.

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    [–] 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

    Peter Thiel (CEO co-founder of Palantir) realised the religious right are a fanatical base of support if you can get them on your side. So that's what he's trying to do.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Oh no, it's even worse. He actually believes in the religious stuff he's talking about. Not just a manipulative schemer, a true believer.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I'm not sure of that.
    He certainly sounds like he does. But what he says is just a little too out there, and too self serving, for someone that clever to easily convince me they actually believe it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    People are complicated, but I still have a hard time wrapping my head around a gay man being a true far-right christian in 2025. There are religions compatible with being LGBT, but it's just hard to reconcile that with modern christo-fascism.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I don't recall the link for now, but there was a fairly long piece a couple of weeks (months?) ago that went into the Thiel religious awakening. The short version is that he doesn't necessarily believe in Jesus so much as he believes that organized religion is so important as a binding agent in society that you're better off pretending to believe in it, advocating for it, and imposing it by force if it seems necessary, all to satisfy the human need for mimesis, or imitative desires and behaviors.

    Society's movement away from Christianity in particular as a uniquely humane and sophisticated global-ready religion means it's okay to fall back on older "tribal" religious patterns like assertive scapegoating to reimpose the world order. There is room for regions of the world with independent traditions to impose them as a means of having a safe and orderly society, because it allows the Christian region to interact with a relatively small number of competing ideologies, which satisfy similar psychological needs for their populations, and therefore a balance can be maintained. It's better for the system if most people hold sincere beliefs about the supernatural aspects, but it's not utterly critical, particularly for elites, as long as folks legitimately buy into the societal repercussions of failing to rely on religion for social control. It's like Pascal's wager on meth, which is appropriate because a lot of it dates back to a German guy who was a Nazi apologist through most of the thirties until being discarded by them right before WW2. Some of this is strictly IIRC, so be on notice, LOL.

    Conveniently, all this allows the Christianized advocates for this worldview to declare any systemic threat to the triumph of their vision for world peace to be accurately-enough referred to as the Antichrist, and the things you're allowed to do to oppose the Antichrist are quite broad.

    JD Vance is thought to be well-ensconced in the ideology.

    EDIT: Found it, plus a couple of others that discuss the same thing. Thiel is absolutely nuts, but not quite the way he's sometimes portrayed.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I think Thiel might actually be this crazy and believe his own pseudo Christian narcissistic bs. He was raised fundamentalist. He works with a weirdo evil billionaire cult Acts 17. Behind the bastards just did a couple episodes on his Antichrist talks.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago

    So...being onboard with the AI revolution requires belief in imaginary things?

    Yep. That actually checks out.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago

    Person not gullible in one respect also isn't gullible in another respect?

    You don't say?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Jokes on him, I'm part of the Butlerian Jihad. Death to the toasters.

    Its also weird all these tech CEOs are backing the guy who is trying to deport populations that are more christian (80%) than the general US population (60%).

    Its almost like they're just pointing the finger at everything but money.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    These evil fucks need to go

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    My family are Christians which by definition is apocalyptic, what is this guy talking about?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I’m actually terrified by religious people and their unshakeable belief that everything’s gonna be okay because Sky Daddy will fix it and if we destroy the world well that’s just accelerating His plan so it’s all good.

    Concerned about the consequences of our actions? Here just take some opiate-of-the-masses and chill out.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    i think religion is the one thing of which there exists no lack anywhere on this planet.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Reinforces my position that AI is apocalyptic Christianity for techbros.

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  • Palantir CEO can lick my entire taint

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Let's rewrite that headline in a more positive tone.

    AI doomerism is driven by those with a clear perspective.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Ah yes, I love faith-based AI technology. The slop is real so long as you believe! /s

    Seriously are these people who think your prayers are the reason your phone stays on 1% battery for an hour longer than you thought?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah, his founder Pether Thiel has some very weird takes on religion as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Have a problem with society not doing what you want it to do? It's a problem with the lack of religion! It's true. We've known religion gives you the capability to get societies to do what you want them to for centuries.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The strength of todays "AI" is generating bullshit, isn't it? Not that it doesn't take more than that to invent a new religion, I suppose you also need genuine holy divine inspiration and so on, but it sure might be helpful to the process.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    This headline doesn't seem to match the article content at all. He never says that. He makes a statement about how people are interpreting AI as filling a "God shaped hole", but that's as close at it gets.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I guess it's time for some Imperial Truth.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I think I'm one of the more well known religious folk on this place, and I am also a bit of an AI doomer.

    I think the way some people want to use it is satanic.

    Revelation 13:14-15 ESV

    and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.

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