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[–] 282 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Grey Poupon is not fancy mustard. You can buy that shit in any grocery store, it was developed by food scientists and is mass produced in giant semi-automated factories. It's also not particularly expensive. If you can only afford yellow mustard but not Grey Poupon you shouldn't be buying any mustard because your budget is way too tight to be paying for condiments you can get free in a fast food restaurant.

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  • [–] 95 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    The only reason people think it’s fancy is because of some dumb commercials made in the 80s.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

    Those weren't from the '90s? Am I so old that I'm now conflating these decades?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    They were referenced in Wayne's World in 1992 and I'm guessing that they were at least a couple of years old by then.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yup, you're right. I was actually pulling up to people in traffic and asking them this in '92. Because I thought it was hilarious.

    It still is, but it used to be, too

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They existed in the 90s too. They really milked that shit

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Also some ad campaigns just lasted forever hell some just updated the commercials on occasion. You can now hear the Empire Carpet jingle.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That is some perspective.

    It reminds me of another conversation starter about wealth inequality. Where do poor people buy their bed sheets? The answers are usually Walmart or Salvation Army. Where do middle class people buy sheets? Nordstroms or some other department store. Where do rich people buy sheets? They don’t. They have people for that.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The rich use people for bed sheets?

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  • [–] 148 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    This is just a totally brain dead take. Maybe the SNAP recipient likes brown mustard and prioritizes it. And you don’t care that much so you don’t prioritize it. If it mattered to you, you would budget to get fancy mustard.

    If you really do feel you can’t afford fancy mustard, you shouldn’t be mad at the person who earns food assistance and then uses it to buy fancy mustard, you should be mad that you aren’t making enough to afford fancy mustard.

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s also like $4 to get a bottle of Gray Poupon, absolutely ridiculous to be trying to whip people into a frenzy over that to begin with.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is just a totally brain dead take.

    Well yeah, they're complaining about people who receive SNAP benefits, so that's a given.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Theres the rub. The working class and poor have been indoctrinated to believe that they are their own enemies, and the puppet masters that orchestrated all of this class warfare are the rich to keep us busy from chopping their heads off.

    The poor aren’t our enemies. They are the frogs boiling in water that the rich use to determine what they can do to everyone else.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it’s not like SNAP users get a discount on “fancy” mustard, they just get use their government-given food money to buy whatever kind of food they want instead of the government policing how they are allowed to use their food money.

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  • [–] 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh yes, the classic “the poor people are secretly happy and that bothers me” argument. It’s like a cat call for stupid people. The whole point of it is to say “you’re not allowed to have anything remotely nice because I consider myself better than you.”

    It’s mental illness made into a political platform.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Their position is more accurately something like "If I have to pay for you to have things, you shouldn't be allowed to have nicer things than I can afford."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Apply that analysis to the mustard argument in the post. It’s ridiculous. Nobody is using food stamps to buy a Porsche. If their life is made a little better because an extra bit of my tax dollars went into fancy mustard I’d consider that nothing short of a bargain.

    That argument is literally gatekeeping fucking mustard. If you can’t spring for the grey poupon then being that much stingier with your taxes is not going to be enough to solve your problem anyways. You just want others to suffer because you suffer, which harkens back to my original point that is mental illness.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Yellow mustard is not less fancy. It's yellow because it has turmeric in it. That's more ingredients and it's one of those fancy unique spices.

    The reason it's cheap is because Americans like the flavor of turmeric in their mustard so some companies have made a cheap version of it.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Plus, different mustards for different foods. I like a yellow with a lot of things, but on a hotdog is pretty classic. I like a spicy brown mustard with some chicken. And maybe a stoneground for a deli sandwich. Chinese mustard from some restaurants, like with spring rolls, is also quite the treat at times, if you like the spice level! I'm hungry.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    A little bit of mustard can enhance many sauces, too. Key words "a little bit". Like a bean pot recipe I base mine off of called for either 125 ml or 250 ml ketchup and 5 ml mustard. But if you forget that teaspoon of mustard, it doesn't taste nearly as good.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Dijon mustard is yellow? Isn't it not only the classic mustard but also (if it's made as it should, anyone can make "Dijon mustard" IIRC) made without any special additives?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sorry, maybe my post was confusing. Dijon is the one that doesn't have turmeric and isn't yellow, the bright yellow ballpark mustard does.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

    Imagine being the kind of ghoul that thinks if people need assistance, that assistance should be the absolute bottom of the barrel lest someone who didn't need the assistance chose to not spend the money they have the freedom to decide how to spend.

    Life isn't zero sum.

    If you want fancier mustard and you're not on food stamps, just spend one of the extra dollars you must have to cause that. It's not gonna run out

    Edit: typo

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    Life isn’t zero sum.

    That is the crux of it. They believe it is. Wholeheartedly. It's part of their core being at this point. If someone is receiving something, they must be losing something in return. It's their tax money.

    They're incapable of making the mental connection that corporations and the rich aren't paying anywhere near even a fair share of taxes that could entirely pay for those programs to apply to every citizen, including themselves. And the media preys on that to further pit themselves against their fellow citizens because it's all owned by those same rich assholes.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    It's not even just that, they believe that people on government assistance need to be constantly shamed and humiliated, otherwise they will never have the motivation to pull themselves out of poverty.

    I had an argument with a big-L "Libertarian" acquaintance who straight up admitted that he would rather pay more in taxes to implement new stricter oversight and systems to restrict what people spend their WIC/SNAP benefits on than endure the possibility that someone might buy a bag of Doritos with said assistance. The cherry on top was him--again, a "Libertarian"--claiming it would be to ensure they are making healthy, state-approved, food choices.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I love libertarian ideas like let people do what they want, government should have minimal intervention in peoples' lives, stuff like that. But the libertarian party is full of the worst type of people and they will never be taken seriously for any major election.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Libertarian ideas about freedom from government intervention are taken to an extreme and wrapped up in the denial of funding social supports, because pooling resources for the overall benefit of society is evil or something.

    Many countries establish personal rights in a way that still allow for freedom without the libertarian selfishness aspect.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Libertarians want minimal government intervention only when it comes to services that THEY don't need. Libertarians have no philosophical restrictions on military spending that protects THEIR assets from foreign invaders.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lol we (the US) haven't had "foreign invaders" since the War of 1812.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    (the US) haven’t had “foreign invaders” since the War of 1812.

    False. Pearl Harbor was a foreign invasion. So are covert assassinations by foreign operatives.

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  • False. Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941 and Pearl Harbor wasn't an invasion anyway. Wake Island would be a better example since it was actually invaded, but it was also a claimed territory and not a state. Assassinations are not "invasions".

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The thing that annoys me the most is that some countries having a percentage of people unemployed is literally a feature not a bug

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    [–] 45 points 1 year ago* (17 children)

    They charge for the blue checkmarks? And...people do it? I haven't had xitter since years before nazi boy bought it.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Yes, it was one of the more contreversial changes he did. Before, you had to be "vetted" by xitter staff as being both notable and who you said you were. That wasn't a great system, and was effectively a nepotism/who you knew game, but you wouldn't see blue checkmarks for fake accounts.

    It used to be a sign of trustworthiness.

    Now anyone can get one for a monthly fee.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    what I find shocking is that the website still exists and has so many users; I even know a user IRL who hasn't noticed it has gotten any worse since Elon took over ...

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    If someone using xitter hasn't noticed it got worse, it's probably because they don't think the Nazis are a bad thing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Nah, it's probably because not everyone cares about the political stuff so if for example you only follow cosplayers or whatever, you never get to see the nazis. At worst you might notice more creeps leaving weird comments but I dunno, I don't actually use it. Maybe I'm way off.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    he has been accidentally sending me fascist propaganda without realizing it's fascist, like that Italian sculptor's video that was making the rounds, the guys who made that controversial Joan d'Arc statue with government funds?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Oh, then yeah.. guy sounds clueless. Also what video? Trying to find it but nothing that matches your description.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    here is the exact video: https://x.com/AtelierMissor_/status/1925680032115998915

    Atelier Missor are the group of French sculptors

    here's an article about the controversy around their Joan d'Arc statue:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-statue-nice-joan-of-arc-b2682765.html

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh, I was aware of this, just didn't know it had made international news. Statue was decided to stay despite the whole thing. And yeah, the sculptors are macho cunts in the vein of Andrew Tate but I wouldn't have classed them as fascist propagandists. But the shoe fits, tbh, you're right.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    they are affiliated with the far right, and the qualities in their propaganda match literl neo-Nazi propaganda videos I have seen: men working in plains-clothes doing manual labor, in this case glorifying the Christian West, expressing a kind of cultural / identitarian supremacy that is common with Islamophobes and racists.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Now, it just marks you as somebody stupid enough to give Elon money for no reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's not for no reason, it allows longer posts, increases visibility and is required to monetize your account. If you care about any of those things (I don't) you might consider paying for a blue check (I don't). I'm definitely not the target market.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Before, you had to be “vetted” by xitter staff as being both notable and who you said you were.

    This made me think of an easy-ish way to do it for the fediverse:

    1. You must have a Wikidata page, with at least one Wikipedia page associated with that Wikidata page
    2. On the Wikidata page, you must have a P4033 property with that account
    3. Add some ActivityPub metadata for "Account owner's Wikidata Item"
    4. When there's a two way correspondance (Fediverse Account <-> Wikidata entry), show a Wikipedia logo which brings you to the corresponding Wikipedia article about the person.
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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's so weird seeing that sunshine account when our local sunshine lemming is the opposite.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is what I like about universal basic income. This argument no longer exists.

    I was on unemployment one time and had to decide between staying on unemployment and accepting a job where I barely made any more money after gas.

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