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[–] 244 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Use EICAR test strings as passwords so when the password is stored as plain text the antivirus software will delete the file.

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  • [–] 133 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Dude makes a whole binary of a virus his password.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    01001000 01100101 01101100 01101100 01101111 00101100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01110100 01110010 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101111 01110100 01100001 01101100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01110111 01101111 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 01100110 01100101 01100011 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01110000 01101000 01101111 01101110 01100101 00100000 01101111 01110010 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101101 01110000 01110101 01110100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110111 01101001 01110100 01101000 00100000 01100110 01110101 01110010 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110000 01101111 01110010 01101110 00101110 00100000 01010100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00101110 00101110 00101110 00100000 01000100 01101111 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100011 01101000 01100101 01100011 01101011 00100000 01101001 01101110 01110100 01100101 01110010 01101110 01100001 01101100 00100000 01110011 01110100 01101111 01110010 01100001 01100111 01100101 00101110 00100000 01010100 01101000 01100001 01101110 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01111000 01101111 01111000 01101111

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    What is an EICAR test string?

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    a computer file that was developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research (EICAR) and Computer Antivirus Research Organization to test the response of computer antivirus programs. Instead of using real malware, which could cause real damage, this test file allows people to test anti-virus software without having to use real malware.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This sounds like a step towards computer vaccines, and I'm not about to let my computer get autism, thank you.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    Unfortunately there is significant overlap between plain-text-password-servers and servers that can't be bothered to use antivirus. Also, the string may not work if it's not at the start of the file. AV often doesn't process the whole file for efficiency purposes.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sadly it wouldn't work if found in a CSV file with other records:

    According to EICAR's specification the antivirus detects the test file only if it starts with the 68-byte test string and is not more than 128 bytes long. As a result, antiviruses are not expected to raise an alarm on some other document containing the test string

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  • [–] 170 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    fun fact, "commas" does not require an apostrophe

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm watching the collective knowledge of my civilization crumble and I'm powerless to stop it

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you have to ask Grok .... : /

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I have a urge to create a lemmy equivalent of grok now

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, but look at how many extra comments that generates. I'm starting to think that intentionally bad grammar is sometimes a good social media tactic to create engagement on top of what you're already doing, but I'm not excluding people being just plain illiterate.

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Interesting... I wrote a gag comment about using an SQL injection as my password and crashed the Lemmy API. Using connect if that makes any difference.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    noice! Did the '; DROP TABLE USERS;' respond?

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Almost line for line. A wall of XML popped up when I hit submit. Looks like yours went through.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    SQL injection in the big 2025...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Friend, we're still seeing publicly exposed plaintext credentials in 2025...

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Don't add apostrophes to make words plural, that's not how it works.

    Until next time

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How* it works

    Until next time

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    [–] 88 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    add apostrophes to your meme to reduce clarity

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  • [–] 100 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Add comma's

    Add commas what?

    Adding an apostrophe makes the s possessive

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The apostrophe is to announce that the next letter will be an 'S'!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You're possessed by a GrammarNazi spirit!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's OK for people to be offended by lazy editing. This isn't a language barrier problem, which would be an acceptable excuse. This is lack of attention.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not really, it is sad to expect perfect grammar on a casual forum. People are usually posting/commenting here inbetween other stuff.

    Real life > social media.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Someone who's too lazy to perform basic grammar checking before posting a meme is a lazy person, period. That lack of concern about the quality of your work is never isolated to just "a casual forum". But thanks for your reply. Have a day.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Different languages have different rules for making words plural. Dutch, for instance, requires an apostrophe for a lot of them. (een komma, twee komma's), so a mistake is quickly made.

    To err is human, still... Are you able to type 100% faultlessly in your second or third language?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Thanks to my password manager, commas are among the more tame characters that occur in my passwords.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hm, now you're making me wonder how feasible it would be to use Emojis in my passwords...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Should work alright if the server handles Unicode correctly, and isn't one of those ass sites that put restrictions on the password's length and composition. Hashing functions don't even care if you're feeding them raw binary.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I.. I hope my passwords are hashed and salted long before they reach the server, so the way it handles unicode shouldn't affect it all that much. The logistical issue I was seeing with emojis was more that some of them look the same but have different Unicodes alltogether, so typing in the same emoji across devices might be tricky if their keyboards default to different codes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Passwords are typically sent to the server and hashed there. I'm a bit hazy right now on the implications of client-side hashing, but it would likely present some security problems.

    Edit: at the least, it would allow an attacker to use a leaked password database to log in to the sites, sidestepping the whole hashing thing.

    There are protocols that send a hashed or encrypted password instead of plaintext, but they're more complex than just hashing. Iirc they involve a challenge-and-response method.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Oooh hashed and SALTED! I kept peppering the passwords that get sent to my server. Now all I need is to clean up the mess and the mold that all those hash browns leave behind.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Sadly, no. CSV files can deal with embedded commas via quoting or escaping. Given that most of the dumps are going to be put together and consumed via common libraries (e.g.python's csv module), that's all going to happen automagically.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What about quotes (single/double) and \s mixed with commas?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Everything you can use for a password can be escaped out of a csv. Partially because csvs have to be interoperable with databases for a bunch of different reasons, and databases are where your passwords are stored (though ideally not in plaintext). There's no way that I can think of to poison your password for a data breach that wouldn't also poison the password database for the service you're trying to log into.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Gotcha, that's what I was thinking as well. I haven't done any software development in a long time (I have a degree in it, but professional career sent me down another path in tech), so my memory on input sanitization is very rusty. Thanks for the response!

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Add apostrophes to "commas" to mess with me

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    Pass","words","Are","fun","\n

    Fuck that csv All the way up.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    A perspective from someone who red teams for a living:

    If I encounter a password like that, I'm probably going to pay special attention to your account among the millions. Commas dont stop most people from being weak to password permutations either.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you're manually checking the 12 million username password pairs in the leaked database you aren't really going to breach many accounts before people update their passwords, are you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    What if it's exported as a tsv?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Mine are typical error messages.

    See you next time!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Comma, single quote, double quote, escape last \ and all your cases are covered.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    ngl this got a good fucking chuckle out of me

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