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[–] 127 points 1 year ago* (21 children)

I love how accurate this image is. As they hammer more the structure becomes more and more unstable.

I've noticed the AI search suggestions from Bing and Google are just becoming more and more inaccurate as they feed off themselves. I can't even imagine what it's doing to systems we can't see.

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Everything is fine. It will become god and fix all our problems any second now, and if you say that's mathematically impossible you're just a hater.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "We will create God then ask him for money."

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    "It doesn't matter that we are burning 1 trillion dollars with no pat to revenue, because we will create God and it will make money meaningless."

    "Also, it will cure cancer and solve Global Warming. I know dumb people like you that can't even get a trillion dollars to burn care about those things.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I mean, nitpick, but if you blamed mathematics you actually would be. The observation that AI/LLMs are highly unreliable and don't appear to be getting any better is empirical.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    We ha e known since the 50s. The math was done.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Hmm. I'm not sure what you're referring to. Do you have a link?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    No but Turing was involved, and the guy who wrote ELIZA

    The tech isn't new. That's all the effort I'm willing to put in for this trash.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    And that paper's name? Albert Einstein. I can't find anything on Weizenbaum and Turing authoring together. Weizenbaum seems to have written mostly prose and code, even - he's not really thought of for his mathematical innovations, although obviously math was his original field.

    Back in the 50's people thought conventional algorithms, like everybody here has worked with, were going to reach human intelligence. They could play chess, and chess is smart guy stuff, so obviously recognising a bird should be easy, right? Well, they figured out that wasn't right, and so began the first AI winter.

    The tech of deep neural nets is in fact fairly new. Like, arguably it didn't become a thing until the Cold War was ending, although there were a lot of precursors, and it kind of arrived gradually.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    'Deep neural nets' that's not a thing, dude. If it was, it was out on ice for this trash.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Any comments on how you attempted to lie to us all there? To win an internet argument?

    It is. It's one that has hidden layers, as opposed to a shallow neural net which does not. Shallow neural nets aren't really a thing anymore, so it's usually omitted, but historically things like the perceptron go back further, and they're conceptually simpler to update during training. They also can't really deal with anything nonlinear.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Okay boomer. You understand technology I guess. This technology that's so good and has so many applications and isn't a trillion+ dollar ponzi scheme, and is totally gonna summon us up god any minute now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Thank you, yes I do. And like I said in OP it seems to be crapping out pretty good at it's current level of ability - maybe it's not a Ponzi scheme, but it is a giant overvalued bubble.

    The internet can't hurt you, you don't have to lie to us. And it kinda pisses me off when people do anyway, because it makes it worse for everyone.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    i mean, we have the solutions to a lot of problems already

    traffic? public trains

    hunger? just like, feed people

    global warming? reduce fossil fuel usage and stop poisoning the oceans

    homeless? literally so many empty homes, put people in them???

    and we've had many smart people create step by step plans for all of these!

    the thing is... i guess rich people want a solution that doesn't involve them paying for something that's good not just for them but for others? so all those plans fail at step 1 - have empathy

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    noai.duckduckgo my beloved, glad that's the best free option rn (although I think Kagi is getting popular too, but that's paid).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Glad to know that option is available, I've been using DDG for years and use the AI assist like once a week when I have a really specific search about a movie or scene or actor or event happening 14 years ago going off memory. After about the 3rd search I actually get useful information from the AI assist.

    Most recently I searched for "movie scene with slow motion cannonballs flying around while ship explodes" because I could remember that gif but not the movie. No search results were helpful, nor images or videos but the AI assist said it was a scene from the 3rd pirates of the Caribbean.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I looked for some troubleshooting for my podcast player, and was really mistrustful of the AI summary, but it was right. But of course the solution was pulled from a forum, so could easily have been from a different product, or an outdated version. The last thing I looked for gave a well out dated answer for fingerprint readers under Linux

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    They don’t feed from each other. AI is trained with data from the before times. They only use good old regular search engine algos to get context data.
    Simplicated:
    Prompt->analyze->genereate search terms->analyse search results->generate response

    They just make way more loops in real scenarios and even more if you let it “think longer”

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Meanwhile that little block at the bottom is still doing its best to keep it all together. For now.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They are putting it into washing machines these days.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "Oh good catch! How astute of you! Of course I should have added detergent before running the cycle!"

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    User: Add enough detergent for this weight of clothes.

    Washing machine AI: OK, I have added the correct amount for you, ready to start the wash.

    User: You only added fabric softener, I need you to add detergent. Please weigh the clothes and add the detergent based on that weight.

    Washing machine AI: Ah, I see what you mean. I have now weighed the clothes and added the needed amount of detergent.

    User: you just added more fabric softener. Do not add any more of that, I only need detergent. Please, add detergent.

    Washing machine AI: I'm sorry, I misunderstood you before. I have now made sure to add detergent.

    User: you added more fabric softener....

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Technology Connections in his recent video (or was it on his second channel?) points or that since dishwashers had only six functions, all of which run when given line voltage, and case running when depowered, anyone with Arduino and some relays could make a new control board for a dishwasher pretty easily, to make programs that way better. Laundry machines are similar but simpler, if they ever get that bad, they'll be easy to lobotomise

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    More like doing a big sloppy crap of AI on top of everything.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    At least copilot only does shit when you click on it, even if it is useless.

    Unlike Google, which wastes tons of electric and water every single search without the users consent. That is a lot more damaging to society than whatever Microsoft does.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm blown away that they actually named it copilot. I would have thought they'd name it something stupid like "my computer* or "xbox" or "me".

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Speaking of being needlessly destructive with stupid bots, these duplicates of other user's posts don't even register as cross-posts anymore (due to image proxying).

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  • [–] [S] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Lol what bots? This is all manual hence why some posts get through with the dumb proxy URL that I typically manually edit

    Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

    I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don't want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.

    Megathread on the issue

    Some highlights from the link:

    "Don't worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

    "See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn't count!!" ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

    .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

    "NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

    General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

    "If you don't support Russia then you just don't understand geopolitics" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

    And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can't even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

    I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

    On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like "Lemmy? Isn't that the place with a bunch of tankies?" Or "Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left". The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.

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