I came over to Linux from windows on my laptop at the beginning of October. Get better performance now cause windows was so bloated
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Funny to read this right after finishing an Elden Ring : Shadow of the Erdtree gaming session.
Yes, so it should. In fact I'm gaming on Linux on :
- desktop with gamepad
- desktop with VR
- handheld with SteamDeck
- handheld with MuOS or ANBERNIC
...and I don't even think about it. I just play regarding of the game being AAA or indie, VR or "flat". It just works.
MuOS is fantastic, which handheld do you have?
ANBERNIC rg28xx and I mostly use MuOS for PortMaster to get RockBox.
In fact I'm trying to write a RockBox plugin to support Lunii stories but for now I just have some basic JSON parsing (thanks to cJSON).
What device do you have and what do you use it for?
I have the rg35xxsp, and I’m always shocked at how atrocious the model name is 🤣
I mostly use it to play gba games, but have dipped a little into PortMaster. Your use sounds a bit more advanced!
Nice, the hinge always stressed me a bit but for GBA looks perfect.
Well my use is mostly tinkering :P but the realization that on top of being a neat little handheld it's also a proper computer... I just can't help myself and want to get "more" out of it. Silly habit!
I love the clamshell! I don’t think it’s perfect by any means but being able to toss it in my bag without needing to worry about a case has been so nice.
And I totally understand the tinkering 😂 I saw that Mu was running bash scripts and had to restrain myself to primarily playing. I did make a custom theme though!
It's fascinating to think how small the niche I'm in actually is.
Happy to have joined that 3% a week or so ago
Same! I'm about a month into properly running Mint Cinnamon ans it's been a lovely experience. Glad to be part of the team
how much to make all the big shooter games allow linux on their anticheats
I think it will more likely happen if windows kicks games out of kernel space.
There’s little reason to force them out given games run temporarily. We’re more likely to see security products move out of the kernel first since they run full time and from boot (meaning there’s stronger implications if they fail in kernel space e.g. Crowdstrike). And even then, they’re not forcing them out, just offering APIs in user space to negate the need to be running in the kernel for those use cases.
I’d love to see games denied the ability to run drivers in kernel space on Windows but I don’t think we’ll see that any time soon.
Sorry to say, but game anticheats can also run whenever like the malware they are.
Yes but many don’t. And the risk impact of BSODing gaming computers vs business systems is dramatically different.
We won’t see MS do anything about kernel drivers until the majority of security industry has moved to whatever new userspace APIs MS release.
Even then, do gaming anti cheat developers really care?
IMO simply vote with your wallet and don’t buy games that need kernel drivers and still fail to address cheaters who always find a way around.
Vanguard literally always spies on your PC from a most privileged location
What’s that got to do with MS’s decision to kick them out? What’s the Venn diagram of mission critical systems and systems running Valorant/League?
I’m not disagreeing that these bullshitty kernel drivers running from boot exist, I’m stating that MS aren’t going to do shit about it if even more risky kernel drivers aren’t planned to be removed from the OS and there’s plenty of other popular anti cheat drivers that are only loaded at runtime.
I think the point is that, if Microsoft actually makes an API for the features that kernel-level software needs. They are going to boot everyone out of the kernel, mission critical systems and anti-cheat systems included.
I know people in the working group in the cybersecurity space working with MS on these APIs and this really isn’t their plan. They aren’t doing it to kick people out - cybersecurity want out for themselves as no one wants to do a CrowdStrike.
There are countless other use cases for kernel drivers that won’t be in scope of the APIs being drafted.
Been playing ARC Raiders on Linux the past couple of days.
I can't get the damn thing to load on my machine -_-
Did you try with Proton-GE? Regular Proton would not load for me for some reason.
I did, I tried multiple Proton versions, tried experimental and tried it with the bleeding edge beta option.
None of them acted differently, all if them loaded the black screen with the loading icon bottom right and then crashed and gave no details on why it crashed at all.
Proton-GE is a 3rd party tool I always use when a game doesn't start with a Valve Proton version
Ah OK. I have refunded it now so can't try as I spent nearly 2 hours "in game" time trying to get the thing working and didn't want to go past that 2 hour threshold and then be stuck with an expensive game I couldn't play.
I would really recommend you take a look at ProtonDB when it comes to troubleshooting like that, it is one of if not the best resources for that kind of stuff
for some reason mine crashes if i tab out while it's loading into a map. fwiw.
I had a problem loading it during the playtest (black screen, forever loading icon) and had to install Proton EasyAntiCheat Runtime for it to start up properly. Never had a problem launching the playtest or full game after that!
Thanks for the suggestion, that is one of the things I tried that did not work though :(
I read somewhere that Mac started to get more support for previously windows only apps once they hit 5% market share.
It’s been like a decade since I’ve read that, so who knows the source.
according to Google, Steam has 147 million monthly active users
3.05% of 147 million is about 4.48 million Linux Steam monthly users
according to Google
huh? why would Google know more than Valve about this?
Jesus christ, dude. He obviously means "according to the google search I did!". This isnt reddit, please dont be pedantic.
No need to be so dramatic either, he might have just misunderstood.
Same here. Installed Kubuntu on my gaming laptop about 3 months ago. Last week switched to Bazzite (was having issues with a few games not running, Sable being one of them, and didnt feel like messing around with the settings any more). Really loving Bazzite and the fact that games are just working now with minimal to zero messing with various settings.
Very nice! Sable was actually the first game I played through on Bazzite myself!
Game's a bit janky (it was janky on Xbox too, when I played it there years ago, with exploration stuttering so badly I vowed to return on PC later), so it was a little stressful in that I wasn't sure if the issues were due to the game's code or something with Proton, etc😆
But overall a wonderful experience, and an impressive indie debut. I stuck with it until I had all masks this time around!
Yeah! I got it free through Epic right when I switched to Kubuntu. It's a fun game now that I've actually gotten to play it (just left the valley lol).
I mention in a few of my other posts, I have an older Asus Tuf gaming laptop with an Nvidia GTX 1050. I knew I had to download the proprietary drivers for the 1050, but I wasn't sure which ones, so I think I initially downloaded the 535 drivers. Anyway, Sable launched okay (playing through Heroic), I was able to play until I got into the initial camp, then it crashed and never started up again. I was bummed.
But switching to Bazzite and downloading everything again, and it's just working. I didnt change anything, didnt have to mess with any settings. It's awesome!
Best we can do is Mac support and blocking Linux
What are you talking about?
Despite Linux growth Mac is constantly better supported by Devs.
It doesn't explain the previous comment tho. The "block Linux" is what I'm not getting. Did you mean drop Linux native, because proton/wine is so good that it isn't necessary?
Linux machines get banned instead of support.
Which brings me back to. "What are you saying?". Banning from what?
It's common knowledge that games like Apex Legends blocked Linux access or deployed an anti-cheat that previously was fine, that then players got bans for. Source: I'm taking you to Reddit, deal with it https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1iszbmu/games_that_banned_linux/
Fairlight 84 https://steamcommunity.com/app/1928420/discussions/0/600788619628804058/
Fuck me you're needy, it was a light-hearted comment, if you spent any time in the Linux gaming space, I wouldn't have to spoon-feed you a joke. Have a good one.
No I'm not explaining what the one is :D
Sheesh. Another community I'm more than happy to ignore.
No worries, hope you find somewhere that suits you. Just for future chats if you’re genuinely curious, try to ease up a bit and be more polite. You came across more contrarian than conversational, so I matched that energy while still giving you what you asked for.
I know this is a tiny percentage overall, but it’s a very substantial boost to the Linux percent, perhaps correlating with Win10 losing free security updates, and a minority of savvy gamers swapping to Linux. (Myself included, so obviously bias to my statement)
I have been noticing a boost in people using Linux with gaming. There's a lot of benefits. Most of the time Linux is better at battery and performance than the alteratives.
In addition, windows 11 is pretty unstable right now. Even the task manager has bugs haha.
I partially switched to Linux this week, I had an older Windows machine just laying around so I decided to install Linux (I went with Mint) sit it next to my regular Windows machine and set up a switch to easily switch between them. That way if I really need Windows, I still have it. I don't think I will.
I'm still configuring the (now Linux) machine and getting everything like I like it, and all I keep wondering is why I didn't try this sooner. There are so many cool things (like sftp right in the File Manager? right on). I have no complaints.
Steam has run every game I've tried with only minor tweaks (switching to recommended Proton versions for each game, basically). Gaming is not a problem on Linux anymore. I've run old games (Torchlight II, Portal 2, Skyrim) and new games (Oblivion Remastered, Baldur's Gate) and the only problem has been my shit-ass video card just can't run them basically (1050Ti, time to upgrade, lol).
A little while doing all this and I'll convert the Windows machine to Linux and be rid of Windows altogether. Before the end of the year, hopefully. Everyone should give it a try.
all I keep wondering is why I didn't try this sooner.
I think your experience is the most common way people first try Linux: most people first try Linux when they have a computer that is no longer valuable to them.
That was what happened to me. I had a Windows laptop that was running too slow for use, and a friend suggested setting up a Linux partition before I bought a new one. I did, and got another two years out of the laptop.
Now I see a lot of libraries and hackerspaces offering folks help doing this.
I understand that things have changed a bit since I first moved over to Linux - moving from Red Hat Linux to Ubuntu 'Warty Warthog' was such a revelation in overall user-friendliness and usability, back in the day. But upgrading my graphics card from an NVidia one to an AMD was a similar change. I might have only just installed the base operating system and a desktop environment and haven't got around to a web browser yet, but I've already got full hardware accelerated graphics - that's crazy.
Most distros now make the NVidia drivers a complete non-issue, I think? My 6600XT is requiring just a few too many compromises on new games, so I'll need something new too, sooner or later. I used to hold off on graphics cards updates until I could get something twice as good so that it was a noticeable upgrade, but I could buy a pretty decent second-hand car for all the ones which are 'twice as good' now.
An upgrade from a 1050 Ti shouldn't be such a problem. Well done on keeping it alive so long - I had a GeForce GTX 970 that would have been a similar age, but it let out its magic smoke years ago.
Long story short, thanks to the ongoing success of Valve's Steam Deck and other handhelds plus Steam Play (Proton) working out so well
... plus people get more and more fed up with Windows.
I’ve had 4 or 5 tough to solve problems with Mint Linux so far, and every time I start to get frustrated, I remember I no longer have to choose between “Yes” and “Remind me later” when I want “No”. After that I’m happy again.
People can get fed up all they want, if there's no alternative (wine/proton) then there's not a whole lot most people can do besides suck it up
Interesting to see that the KDE version of Fedora is more popular than the Gnome one, considering how long Gnome was the main DE there.
its probably because of how awful gnome is and being able to use it as if it was intuitive is like being some kind of 4th dimensional leftie with a wireless robotic hand.
or maybe because kde is much easier to use coming from windows
I honestly can't stand GNOME and I've given it several tries to try and either appreciate it or understand why others adore it. I don't get it. Like ok I want to open an application launcher or simply see my dock. default click on those odd looking buttons that represent your workspaces but also is your launcher/dock view? ok...I just want to open firefox why do I have to see an overview of my workspaces? I don't care about that I just want to open firefox. How come I can't customize it easily? why do I need to download extensions via my web browser to do so? ok time to upgrade GNOME...wait why are ALL my extensions now broken? Let me go to the GNOME forums or discord to get help...wait why am I getting chewed out by the devs for wanting to customize my GNOME experience? ok I'm going back to KDE.
KDE has also improved A LOT in the past year. it's a damn solid DE now. I primarily use Niri on my NixOS machine but I do have KDE installed also because every now and again I like going back to it to play around with and honestly...I'm starting to prefer Konsole over other terminals.
Extensions are third party, meaning if they are broken you need to complain to the extension developer. If you want to use extensions on GNOME i recommend keeping to the popular ones (dock, justperfection...) as they are regularly updated, and to hold off from upgrading GNOME asap to give the extension developers time to update.
The thing about customizing is that it's never free, someone has to write in the feature and someone has to keep it up to date, which is why GNOME delegates a lot of its customization to third parties allowing a more stable experience and faster development.
I think the problem you have with GNOME is more about you refusing to learn new ways to interact with your pc and instead trying to mold GNOME into what you think the desktop experience should be, and that's always going to be an uphill battle.
That's interesting, because according to statcounter, linux usage actually went down last month, but I guess most browsers on linux will block those stats scripts
I'm willing to bet decent money that there is overlap between users that always participate in the steam hardware survey and users who have permanently installed uBlock Origin and don't save cookies.
I moved my gaming PC and Laptop to Linux about a year ago after I was forced to upgrade my work machine to windows 11. Haven't looked back so far, any game I want to play performs just as well as windows via proton.
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