Good. And now stay vigilant as this will come up again in a year when people have forgotten.
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Skummelgaard will be back, and in greater numbers.
"Skummel" means creepy in Danish.
What does it even mean that they propose a voluntary system? Who would want to voluntarily let themselves be monitored? How would that be beneficial to the supposed goal of detecting CSAM?
It's like in school - the kid who doesn't raise his hand is the one that has to answer the question.
I believe it means that it is voluntary for the service providers to implement such measures, not that users can opt-in. This means that any E2EE message service providers wouldn't be required to implement client side scanning, but that any provider not offering E2EE could still scan server side and report.
The Danes
As a Dane myself, assuming the entire country is pro-surveillance annoys me to no end. Just a few weeks ago there was enough signatures to send in a proposal to folketinget to stop this insanity.
It ends with:
Nรฅr Rusland indfรธrer masseovervรฅgning, ryster vi pรฅ hovedet og kalder det diktatur. Nรฅr EU vil gรธre det samme, er det โfor bรธrnenes skyldโ og forventer, at alle bare nikker.
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When Russia introduces mass surveillance, we shake our heads and call it dictatorship. When the EU wants to do the same, it is โfor the sake of the childrenโ and expects everyone to just nod in agreement.
Iโm an expat living in Denmark and it confused me how this was not only supported but led by the Danish presidency! From a close outsider perspective, it didnโt feel like it matched what I know of Danes, but came from politicians.
My Danish is not very good yet so Iโm not very plugged into grassroots feelings. It felt weird that this legislation would be led by a country with an overall high digital literacy and respect for private life. I assumed the rather high trust in public institutions was a significant factor, but itโs not like the people I know are blindly trusting.
Its a way to get something through so that the next "addon" will feel less scary. Do not fall for it.
Any mechanism for spying on citizens private communication will be missused by whoever is in power. The data will be hoarded and leaked. The mechanism will be compromised and exploited by criminals and foreign powers.
To preserve a free society, we need a right to private communication.
Don't forget the name: Peter Hummelgaard. It is the asshole that was pushing it against people's will, and now he is backing off because his ass heated. FIRE HIM, he should not be dscisive about anything because he is dangerous, if he goes against democratic country will he should not deserve for any high status, don't forget the name.
The good ending ๐
It's not an ending; the only ending is the bad one. We need to succeed every time, but terrorists only once. It'll be back.
It's not a full ending yet. It's a local win. But the possibility for the proposed "voluntary" surveillance is still discussed. We need to push until April 2026 to make sure this sh*t doesn't get through in any shape or form.
I've also edited the post slightly, adding a TL&DR; on top.
What does voluntary surveillance mean in this context ?
Good question, and I'm not fully sure. I think it may be the messengers, E2E or not. I hope it's not the hardware providers such as Samsung/Apple, because those wouldn't be trustworthy.
they made it lawful a few years ago for companies to check your messages for CSAM and report it to authorities if they want to do it. it was meant as a temporary measure until they make it mandatory, and it will expire sometime next year. they want to renew it, and that's what this is about.
Meaning they still don't understand that it's morally disgusting to scan everyone's private communications. They're just annoyed that people care.
Their proposal should be explicitly outlawed, privacy should be a human right.
Yeah, it happens surprisingly often.
Even for people that aren't too knowledgeble or care about it, it's usually a good indicator if it's a "bad thing" when the ministers themselves are exempt from what is being proposed.
Don't worry, chat control will happen.
They retry it every few years and they only need to succeed once
Temporarily
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