Are we now popoular enough to get Illuminatis? (piefedimages.s3.eu-central-003.backblazeb2.com)
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Are we now popoular enough to get Illuminatis?

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[–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I only saw this because someone reported it. Not good enough for the Illuminati apparently, despite being so, so gullible 😔

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Greetings to you; I am an agent of the headquarters of the Society of People Who Were Not Good Enough For the Illuminati. You are one of the lucky ones who received this invitation to join the siblinghood, bc we see something great in your fediverse comments that can be raised for the betterment of the world.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Juat FYI: This dude ain't the real illuminati. Do not be fooled.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Please don't make this another Nicole.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I'm offended I haven't received this.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    If it’s the actual Bavarian Illuminati, then they probably picked you as a credulous, deep-pocketed nobleman who can be pumped for membership dues in return for initiation to an endless ladder of degrees, each revealing profoundly esoteric secrets which don’t actually mean anything. If you’re one of a handful who show themselves to be sceptical and open-minded, perhaps Adam Weishaupt will take you aside and reveal that all that woo was just bullshit to part the rubes from their money, and the true mission of the Illuminati is to spread Enlightenment ideals, such as secularism and anti-monarchism, which the authorities take a very dim view of.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I used to believe that too until I started researching politicians, poets and other influential people in their ranks and their policy positions. Hell no.

    Some were good people with reasonable positions but they never advanced to any political power. A lot were outspoken fascists, and I'm grateful they remained in art.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Their ranks for the 8 or so years they officially existed, or from claims that the Illuminati went underground and were involved in key moments in history? Are you conflating the Bavarian Illuminati with Freemasonry by any chance?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    As far as I am aware, while they tried to distance themselves, they are the same or closely aligned and/or worked together. Lon Milo Duquette and Manly Palmer Hall have shed a little light on the affiliations, and so called Egypt and Babylon, etc. (Mozart's Magic Flute being a particularly delightful backstory).

    It's also interesting that so many worshipped in churches while also bringing to AA, OTO, Golden Dawn, which I'm not particularly adverse to, since I've learned to properly understand religions as esoteric rather than exoteric, and I'm not even against Masons or illuminati, per se, but a lot of these people got lost in the sauce and let power go to their heads.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Bavarian-illuminati

    That said, Freemasonry probably has farther reach. I can't really provide more links, since this work was just a personal interest that I looked into for a few decades and didn't really keep a running file.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I feel pretty certain that masonry has further reach. But that could be because they operate more above board, you can probably find a lodge somewhere near you if you look.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Masonry was the prototype for such movements. Historians have it emerging from stonemasons’ guilds accepting (and becoming fashionable to) aristocratic/bourgeois patrons in the 17th century, and then riding a number of historical waves (enlightenment-era coffee-house culture, the rise of nationalism in the romantic era in Europe, Napoleon, the British Empire, and so on). Others drew on it. The Bavarian Illuminati were probably the best known, but by no means only, esoteric secret society modelled on Masonry. In the other direction, Rotary was essentially Masonry without the woo. Various nationalist, royalist and sectarian secret societies (like the Carbonari in Italy and unionists in Northern Ireland) modelled themselves on Masonry, and Cuba is the only Communist country to not ban Freemasonry because a lot of the revolutionaries there were Masons. So yes, Freemasonry was more of a moment than a coherent thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lon Milo Duquette the Thelemist occultist? I imagine he’d have incentives for taking maximalist interpretations, even if it involves taking leaps of faith. And doesn’t most of the “evidence” of the Illuminati existing beyond Weishaupt’s group come from hysterical anti-Masonic conspiracy theorists like Abbé Barruel (who blamed the horrors of the French Revolution on Masonry and Illuminism, which he conflated into a Satanic plot), and from other anti-Masonic conspiracy theorists who drew on his work?

    Not that there weren’t groups claiming descent from the Illuminati, but along the same lines, for a long time you could join the Rosicrucians by sending a check to a PO box advertised in a magazine.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I've not read ( indeed haven't heard of him until your post) Barruel and tend to dismiss satanic panic types out of hand, in general.

    Yes, that Duquette, and I'm not familiar with him exaggerating, but I'm definitely interested in any material about that you care to provide. He does make a living on book sales, after all, so there's definitely room for incentive. I stumbled across both him and Hall quite accidentally and incidentally, in my wanderings. He's funny and entertaining.

    Hall is definitely... interesting, with an interesting backstory. He also made a living selling books, so he also had incentive to exaggerate and take liberties.

    Still, in looking into what the two I mentioned had to say on the subject, I couldn't disprove it. I'm interested in anything you can point me toward, and grateful for it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Hey I got one too! I deleted it, but as I always do I thought of a funny response 10 minutes later... I should have replied with "I'm honored to have been considered and I hope to prove my worth. My mail details are ButtStuffIsFun@anal.mail!"

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  • Hey I got one of these too! I asked if they were going to send me to steal the declaration with nick cage and sadly they haven’t responded :( lol

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    You lucky duck, let us know how being a secret ruler of the world goes!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Haha, last one I saw of these just had the word "description" where yours says "lucky".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Lmao was just about to post this, I got one while sleeping about 5hrs ago.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The Illuminati disbanded after the Kardashians become a global phenomenon. They could not see any way back from that, and gave up on the goodness of the world. /s

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I got this too, but what was really odd was that the message was rendered differently in the Connect app. Really wondering how that's possible to do.

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  • Ah I see you’ve been chosen as well. I’ll see you at the next secret meeting then?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    WhatsApp or Mail? Tell me you're from India without saying you're from India.

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