We're getting neither .... we're getting this instead ...

No, that's not what we're getting. Say what you will about the Terran Confederation, at least they built a space empire under a unified common goal. At least those humans were outrageously evil.

Instead, what we're getting is this:

That map projection though

I might be mistaken but I think that the comparison is wrong. Starfleet and the federation are not the same.

We want the federation and we are getting the terrain empire.

We want starfleet and we are getting space force

I mean, looking on the bright side: Even the Federation universe had to go through two civil wars, World War III, and the eugenics war to get to where they ended up.

Yep, were stuck with this shitty timeline

Strange that the Space Force logo is a combination of both…

Not sure how they can just steal the Star Trek logo tho…

That reminds me, does anyone know where I could get an agonizer repaired for cheap?

what we wanted:

what we got:

i will weep for the futures lost, but i will not weep for getting mirror kira

We don't know that yet. First we have to go through the nuclear war before we can get to Starfleet. We're speed running it now.

*squinting*

We're getting the Might and Magic devs? Is that why Q was a secret boss in MM6?

It's ok. It just means we can cross over to the brighter side.

You say that, but we seem to be at least on track to a better 2050 than they had.

We've not had a eugenics war, drug-controlled supersoldiers, nuclear conflagration, nor a mutant genocide campaign, and we may not get the second and fourth.

What we wanted

What we're getting

I guess the silver lining is we'll kill ourselves off before we ever make it off the planet to spread our violence elsewhere.

The word Utopia translates to "No place".

There is no such thing as a utopia. The point of stories about utopias is just to get people to think about how to improve things. Not to make people upset they aren't living in a place that can never exist.

The world presented by Star Trek isn't telling you how things should be, how could it? It's wildly inconsistent about how things work, like do they have money or not? It seems it's just conveying they have an ideal future economy, but since the writers don't know what that will be, it's deliberately vague.

The point is to show various problems we have today from the perspective of people in a better future so we can understand that our problems as solvable and motivate us to solve them.

If you're giving up on solving the problems we have today because they seem impossible to solve or you believe they should magically solve themselves, then you're missing the point of Star Trek.

Swords in space??

Starfleet command now that's a cool name for your space agency

What does that mean? What's the second icon?

Even Roddenberry knew by the end that his dream wasnt possible. Humans aren’t that good and altruistic, we are conquerors