Yes. Even putting aside what enshittification has done to the userbase in recent years, Reddit has always skewed Democrat, Fediverse skews leftist.

Like, if I take a single user that I consider to exemplify each? Yes, the lemming will be left, socially and economically, of the redditor.

If we take a statistical average of each? The lemmy average will be screamingly farther left of the reddit average.

If we exclude bots and take the averages of only human users of each? Farther apart than the first but not nearly as far apart as the the second.

What am I basing this on? Multiple years of modding one of the larger not-explicity-political subs and also two explicitly political subs. So, vibes, basically, but lots of them over a long time.

Yes. Like extremely

Before or after reddit started capitulating to fascists and mass bans?

Significantly further left. Communists and anarchists barely exist on reddit while it also has some major right wing subs. Communists and anarchists are a prominant feature of lemmy while it contains almost 0 explicitly right wing communities of significance.

Reddit is main-stream, so should be (and is) mostly centered. Lemmy is more niche and while it has some far right people, it overall leans left.

The average reddit user is a bot

I just got banned for 7 days from Reddit for "threatening violence" for saying the Trump administration deserves the death penalty (which is an actual thing that exists legally in the US) and that the GOP should be dissolved.

A few days ago, an AskReddit thread led me to a group where men were promoting rape and violence against women. Reddit did not ban that.

You tell me.

EDIT: Something funny from the message they sent me: "Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for threatening violence against people or animals." I wish they'd clarify whether it was people or animals that I threatened. It continues "Any communities or people that threaten violence towards an individual, group, animals, or place will be banned." Not the one where a bunch of dudes were promoting rape, though.

The ones I encounter certainly. I don't hang out on Reddit anymore, but I have had a glance now and again and one of the more noticable things are that my own national subreddit there are a lot of right wing/alt right viewpoints loudly touted. In the posts I encounter on lemmy, at least in the sphere I am a part of, it is much more of a leftist general vibe. I don't mind too much.

While echo chambers are not great, it is quite refreshing to have a break from the hate. Or at least have the hate directed in a way I am more comfortable with, I guess.

I don’t know about the average user, but the average commenter - almost definitely, yes. Making any kind of centrist or right-leaning noises here gets you mobbed instantly, so most people just don’t bother. Whether that reflects the actual majority or just a loud minority remains unclear.

I'd say there's a wider spectrum on reddit, if only because reddit is so much bigger. Lemmy is mostly center left while reddit goes everywhere.

Definitely

if you turn on bots the average lemmy user is a bot

Well since reddit pretends to be far right (and full of bots which is another topic but also renders reddit fake & useless), and most of us are here because Reddit was intolerant of our defiance to adhere to its right-wingedness, yeah I'd say fediverse is left. We're free people who refuse to have our free-thinking & free speech squashed.

reddit suppresses leftist message, outside of center right. now it allows more astroturfing from the right through israel and russia. and were not talking about the extremes like tankies.

A friend of mine always says "Averages are a poor measure of a population. For example: I have more than the average number of legs for a human."

Depends, the average .world user is roughly equivalent to the average Reddit user. However I would say the average blahaj or db0 user is significantly further left.

Further weird, yes.

I actually don't think so. Or at least not directly. Because I run into a veritable slew of Hardcore neoliberals as well. I think it's less that there's more leftists and it's more that they're not censored as much here. Sure the world mods will do their best, but they can always just create new accounts in different instances. They're harder to shut down then they were on Reddit.

Course now that I say that I guess that just really means they are further left here because Reddit has moved so far to the right after expunging so many of the leftists. Potato potato.

100%

Bots included?