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What a great idea to test this on paying customers' live production websites.
More likely their hamfisted return to work layoff scheme has caused them to bleed experienced staff. The only people left are less experienced and give less of a shit. It took them over an hour to realize the database of their DNS system was the issue.
I asked a buddy that works at Amazon about the outage and he pointed me to this article.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/20/aws_outage_amazon_brain_drain_corey_quinn/
I know quite a few people who currently work there and pretty much all of them are trying to leave.
I doubt it. Even the article claims that there's been no news about layoffs since July. No mentions from laid off engineers online either.
July isn't "days before", unless you're really stretching "days"
Ah yes trustworthy source 80.lv
Look into this source for like 2 seconds, it is a marketing research company, not journalists, with extremely suspicious and likely generated team. https://80.lv/contact-us#audience https://my.linkedin.com/in/arti-sergeev the "Head" of 80 level doesn't even seem like a real person, definitely not a real picture.
So you’re saying the 80.lv “team” are AI generated? Wouldn’t that be ironic…AI making shit up about AI.
Uhh, why do you say that's not a real pic?
Ok so you're bullshitting based on assumptions. Maybe you're right maybe you're wrong. Got it.
I know for a fact this is a fake article with no proof lol that is enough for me. Sorry you lack critical thinking skills and media literacy
You know for a fact something that you cannot prove outside of your own personal intuition. This is why we can't have nice things.
Wow ai has gotten really good https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2499164710468188&set=pb.100011240502375.-2207520000&type=3
He even has the right number of fingers and various pictures in different states of shaving, dress, environments. If that guy is ai, I'd hire him.
I know there's doubt as to the validity of the claims. I only want to say this: when "AI" takes jobs, who is there to plug things in to make the "AI" machine go?
Sounds like Amazon fucked around and found out.... Allegedly.
A handful of senior engineers or developers. And then we're even more ducked when they retire or die, because the no-one is hiring junior engineers or developers
Amazon has laid off or scared off the vast majority of their most experienced people. Those that weren’t laid off quit over stupidity like “RTO”. I don’t doubt that their underpaid junior staff and Kool-Aid drinking upper management decided that AI is a great way to replace all the lost knowledge and expertise. As with the downfall of civilization, this will get much worse before it gets better. It will be interesting to see how huge companies react to another companies enshittification actively damaging their business and reputation.
Absolute fucking MORONS have taken over the world, and are wrecking it.
IF we ever get our country back, we have to go forward with a national strategy that we no longer have to be polite to treasonous MAGA scumbags. Everytime they open their mouths they should be shouted down with screams to shut the fuck up.
We should never have to tolerate the opinions of stupid, violent traitors.
They'll all pretend they were never MAGA, why are you still going on about Trump, we're trying to look forward, etc.
This is exactly how the GOP disowned the Bush II Administration with the Tea Party.
And that's when we have to scream the loudest, and absolutely refuse to give their gaslighting any credibility at all. If you were a Republican during this era, then you are a MAGA Traitor, racist, rapist, incompetent, intolerant, violent, stupid, pedophile.
And you ALWAYS will be, forever.
MBAs are mortal enemies of software engineers. Couple that with what one former CEO of mine said: "engineers have very well tuned bullshit detectors" and you arrive at the problem...
This happens with any disruptive tech. In the 80s, Old white CEOs were computerizing everything without understanding computers. 2025 every grey CEO throws around A1 without having the first clue how it works.
throws around A1 without having the first clue how it works.
Just open the bottle and pour it on your well-done steak?
DevOps cannot be automated away. So stupid.
....noooooo, it most definitely isn't.
While the job does deal heavily in automating things, it only automates Boolean things. Looking at a platform and seeing why and where it's failing is not a Boolean thing, and never will be. It's the same reason we still don't have machines that repair cars over 100 years after their introduction.
Exactly. DevOps engineers are already super skilled at using automation where appropriate, but knowing how and when to do that is still an extremely human task
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Okay bud, go and tell AWS, Google, Salesforce, and any other of these companies who think "AI" is an answer to everything, because they've all had very public outages due to this exact same thing in the past few months.
You have no idea what DevOps is or how it works if you think any of this is easily done or solved with these junk tools.
Again, refer to my first comment because you're out of your league here 🤣🤦
Been running Ops teams for decades, kid. Look at alllll the people agreeing with me, and disagreeing with you. You have the unearned wisdom of a struggling Junior Dev. If you had any experience, you'd know how embarrassing it would be to attempt to brag about working for "multi-billion dollar companies" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes, those big, big companies are where ALL the good engineering jobs are at. Where all the interesting work is being done 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My GAWD, child. W O W 🤦
You are not reading or understanding comments, child. That's not what I said whatsoever.
You're of the opinion that DevOps engineers can be automated away. I proved you wrong. Now you're talking about the tooling, which is in my first comment to you. Automated tooling is NOT all DevOps is, and the fact you think shows me you're unseasoned in whatever it is you do, have no concept of the role.
It would be people like you who would not pass the first round of interviews from answering a question about this topic exactly as you've stated, because you don't understand the core function of the team, and you're role in it.
You make some code, and obviously have no idea how to run it, let alone at scale. All the working pieces of a platform at large need to be understood and vetted by a DevOps team in order to make it run, and run well. That's understanding everything from start to finish, in ways you wouldn't be able to comprehend being one part of team that is building one part of a platform. You can't make an agent that understands all the underpinnings of all the services or metrics, and why they fail, that then takes action on them, because it's not something AI does. Case in point, the AWS outage and others I mentioned.
Now, you could make MANY agents that take actions on many things, but that doesn't give situational awareness or comprehension to any singular agent, something AI also doesn't do. That's what DevOps teams do.
I don't even need to keep arguing with you about this, because the down votes on your comments speak for themselves. I'm just trying to educate on your false understanding about how it all works so you don't stumble through your career making the same comments and mistakes.
Automation with a lot of validation steps that are not very obvious. Because if they were, we'd have automated them away.
Devops is often figuring out why automation didn't work.
DevOps is not executing the automation, but designing it. DevOps is not manually spinning up pods but writing the automation that does so.
Try it out and you'll see. Amazon seems to be doing great with it.
Tried to figure out yesterday why a user couldn't ssh into a server, tried LLMs to figure it out, completely useless. Had to go into some log file somewhere to find out the one who set up the server made a specific group for ssh and if a user wasn't in that group they couldn't connect. The LLMs (ChatGPT and Gemini) gave me bullshit about changing flags in the sshd config...
Easy fix: give an LLM root access to all production critical servers and allow everyone in the company to chat with it.
First reaction: fear.
Second: I chuckled. Because I thought of some VP-level enforcing this joke as SOP.
And then a little more fear, as a treat.
Most of my work in DevOps isn't in front of my text editor writing scripts. It's spent hopping between dashboards, drafting emails, doing RCA, teaching dev team members how to use pipelines, and getting requirements from them for designing new pipelines. Then inevitably debating with them about design considerations when they ask for a set of procedures that won't pan out.
Until your AI is a fully fledged team member who everyone can feel comfortable engaging with as if they were a real human, you cannot possibly begin to automate this.
Yeah I don't trust the source, but I've heard a ton of articles saying they've been replacing people with AI.
We cannot have the internet be centralized on central hardware with so little oversight.
The thing is that Amazon needs to get broken up way more than Ma Bell did. Most people have never heard of AWS before, but it's crazy to have one company own so much of the internet, even before you get into their stranglehold on internet commerce (which also should be broken up).
I really want this to be true, because not only I believe that would be the immediate outcome, but also because it would be hilarious.
But a somewhat credible source that's not wrapped in "allegedly" and old stories would really help drive the point home.
I've been waiting for something like this so we can see who's heads roll when AI fucks up. I figured we'd see doctors and lawyers losing their licenses first, but maybe it'll be this. So, who shoulders the blame when a program that can't learn from its mistakes fucks up a quarter of the internet?
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/17/ai-amazon-workforce-jassy.html
It's not tough to see what led to this crash. Occam's razor is pretty clear on this one.
The replacement was in July. The article about that replacement was a few days back.
Humans would have said to test it first...
AI will just call you a genius for having a brilliant thought no one else could have ever thought of: fire workers and buy AI
Like, it's fucking insane that high up people are falling for chatbots bullshit, then asking it if they should use AI more. It's always going to say to use AI and fire humans, because the people making the chat bots want people to spend more on AI.
Out of curiosity, I asked Google Gemini if I should use AI more. It said:
The short answer is: yes, you should explore using AI more, but you should do so strategically and thoughtfully.
Which, of course, still favors using AI more without necessarily knowing much about my current use. At least this answer suggested careful and deliberate use rather than wanton.
From what I understand, this report and the layoffs were in July. It makes for a catchier headline to say it was days before.
Reminds me of the joke from king of the hill
Hank: for only pennies more you can get this
Customer: how many Pennie’s
Hank: several hundred…
Yeah it happened just days before… 100s of days but just days.
Still it's like machinery, I go through it with customers,
They get you in because they break down a lot then you spend time getting jt running and sell them on the idea of preventative maintenance, they're happy I'm happy I go in grease maintain inspect and service regularly.
Then someone says hey why are we paying this company to look at our machines so often? They never breakdown we don't need this. So they stop calling don't renew contracts etc.
2 years later they ring again saying they're broken down and I just say sure I can fix it but it's going to cost more this time.
You need to maintain even when it's fine
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I get it but fuck these guys.
I'd like to believe, but the source for the article is a random Medium article which claims there were leaked document, but the headline is clearly click bait. The medium post doesn't go into any details about this, it just outlines some open source tools with "ai" to do basic tasks to run your infrastructure in AWS, not what any engineer working for AWS would actually be doing.
Anything with "allegedly" in the title is probably a lie.


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