Yeah, I live in a red state. But it's an university town, and the police is pretty chill. (I'm brown, and have a distinctly foreign accent, so I'd know.)

Fortunately, we haven't seen much ICE action yet. As I said, it's an university town, most foreigners are on non-immigrant Visas, so I guess we aren't a prime target yet. But I'm sure our time will come, sooner or later, just trying my best to graduate ASAP and leave this country.

I've never had that experience. Every police department I've had personal experience with has been corrupt. I have noticed that some police chiefs I've seen on TV seem more professional; but those people are appointed by (liberal) politicians and vetted. I assume most of the rank and file police are envious of ICE. I think if the federal government could somehow assume direct control of police, bypassing mayors, chiefs, etc, they wouldn't really have much push-back from the rank and file.

Part of the insistence of ACAB is to push these non bastard cops to do something about their bad reputation, in my opinion. Like, I don’t truly believe most women saying “all men” mean “ALL” it’s meant to fire the men up who don’t want it to be all men.

To a certain extent, “every cog is crooked in a corrupt machine” and some are definitely sticking to that. But in either case, the desired outcome is that the good hearted people will make a change. Either cop as a profession will disappear, and those people give their time to the public in other ways, or the cancer will be excised from within.

ICE is also operating with "restraint" and "professionalism" as far as paramilitaries go.

Don't let the terrible normalize the bad.

@JonsJava: This is not trolling and barely even a voice of support.

ACAB

Any of these imaginary police departments that work with ‘’’restraint”’ and ‘“professionalism”” could have broken ranks and spoken up about Eric Garner or George Floyd or the MOVE bombings

Their silence is complicity

A simple police operation done by the books is not newsworthy. That can give a skewed impression.

In my opinion, the overall image holds that the US police doesn't do as good a job as police in countries with 2.5 - 3.5 years of training, different screening / application criteria and better pay.

Part of "fixing" the problems specific to the US would be to provide such training as well as a payment that makes it an attractive job for people who would also succeed in a different career. Only way to do that would be to raise taxes significantly for the 1 percent or 0.1 percent.

It would also be necessary to hold them accountable. A "few bad apples" are one thing, but when the system covers for them, it's a systematic problem, regardless of the number. There need to be real consequences for criminal behaviour on the job, all while having a measured response (retraining, warning, ...) for faulty actions that can happen to anyone in the heat of the moment.

Have any of them stopped ICE from terrorizing their territory?

We don't use that word anymore.