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[–] 30 points 1 year ago

Newest fascist tool has just rolled into the shop 😍

People who's 'right' to protest we have just declared to be terrorism will love it, i am sure. A new, impactful way to touch our communities ❤️.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    They should have called it the Police Interceptor Ground.

    edit: Or the Kosher cruiser because it doesn't have any pork in it.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Lol yes make police officers* obsolete.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    Now let's talk about the problems of institutional racism. I’ve been doing some reading. We're on the wrong side of this issue.

    Well, why don't they just get rid of the new system and put the old one back in?

    It'd be too expensive. Ted, this isn't about race. It's about money. It's always about money.

    Money before people. That's the company motto... engraved right there on the lobby floor. It just looks more heroic in Latin.

    It turned out Lem had also been thinking about the money issue. And he put together some interesting numbers to show us. And then we all went to speak to management in a language they could understand.

    Within a margin of error of plus or minus one percent. And so, if the company keeps hiring white people... to follow black people to follow white people to follow black people, by- Thursday, June 27, 2013- ...every person on Earth will be working for us.

    And we don't have the parking for that.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That thing will get destroyed an hour into its first autonomous run.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Did she really say "a way to touch our community in a way we have never done before"?

    I hate the fact that I had to raise my kids to never talk to cops and stay away from them. The safest community leader is probably the librarians at this point.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is actually really cool. Why? One word: outsmartable

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    This is basically AI company connected to a bunch of high ranking police officers. This first car was free but now they will recommend all the police units get one and funnel millions of taxpayer's dollars into their own pockets. Beautiful scam.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That thing is basically useless. They mention that if they have situation they can call it to deploy a drone - cool, cool...it's autonomous car, it ain't fast, chief. And if it is, may God shield the fools on it's way xD

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    There's no way thing thing would be safe to chase cars/motorcycles

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    How many seconds until people in masks start painting / covering the sensors with stickers? And there is not much they can do (I think. Using the car as a weapon to prevent vandalism would probably be excessive force).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wonder if this one can be stopped with traffic cones like the others

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Does it have fully racist mode? I assume Dubai has those things already deployed somewhere. Old tech.

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    [–] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    1. "Fully autonomous". Sure it is.
    2. "We can touch our community in ways we have never done before." I'm sure the community will feel especially touched and not at all intimidated by multiton robots rolling through their neighborhoods instead of, I dunno, actual people.
    3. I'm certain that when one of these maims someone, everyone will run to the head of the line to take responsibility and handle the situation with thoughtfulness and care.
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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Nothing that a can of paint or a bucket of tar couldn't fix.

    Throw and run ... and the local department would have to spend an hour locating the vehicle to get people to it, then a few hours more towing it back, then days more to clean it up.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Cleanup is absolutely a time burn, but let's also be real; they'll go straight to it via GPS tracking and unless you get the windshield real good, someone will just get in and manual drive it back to the station.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    True .... but it might be time to figure out a liquid combination that stains or is slightly corrosive. You don't need to melt things, just corrosive enough to etch, mar or deform glass or plastics of sensor lenses.

    You clean everything up but realize that the liquid has permanently damaged an imaging lens cover, either with deep stains or corrosion.

    Then you replace it but then it costs money and time.

    And you do it over and over again

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Hydrofluoric acid is really good at etching glass.

    But it's also really good at eating your bones.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Craft stores sell glass(*) etching cream that will absolutely do this (to the types of glass I've used it on). Unless there is some super specific chemistry to windshield glass, a jar of that should work.

    Edit: spelling

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    In my experience, they might not clean their own vehicles. They get people serving community service hours for petty crimes to do it for them.

    Or so I'm told.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know for a fact one of the cities in my area uses the people who are in the city jail for unpaid fines. They get $50 off their fine... by doing all the labor of the jail, like washing the floor, cooking the food, and yes, washing the cop cars.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Indentured servitude. Nice!

    Got to love how the 13th amendment made an exception for prisoners.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, I think they get away with it because it's voluntary, and (more importantly) no one (with power) cares about prisoners. If you had to sit in jail for six days, but could get out in four by doing the extra work, it might be worth it. It also gets you out of the cells, I guess.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It had a drone attached to it, that would follow you and record you as you run

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Nothing a fan of silly string won't fix.

    Also, there's wasp and hornet killer cans that shoot 30+feet. Likely enough sticky liquid in there to bring down a little drone.

    The right fire extinguisher will make a cloud of visibility cover....

    Plenty of low-tech "solutions".

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Balloon or multiple balloons attached to 80lbs fishing line

    or conversely, a small hex nut tied to the end of a line fed by a spool of 80lbs fishing line with about 40 feet of line ... then use a slingshot aimed at the drone ... launch several lines until one gets caught

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Seems more like a marketing stunt. Emphasis by me:

    The PUG will eventually be allowed to drive the streets of Miami-Dade unmanned after a healthy amount of community feedback, the sheriff said. But a deputy will be in the front seat as the vehicle drives itself — for at least the first year.

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    I think I've spotted a Ford logo on the car. And to my knowledge they're nowhere near autonomous driving as of today?! Wikipedia says they're at SAE level 2, while something in the general direction of autonomy would be level 4 or 5, with the added complexity that they'd need special software and AI training for emergency situations. Which probably doesn't exist either. So I seriously doubt it'll be able to do any proper police work in a year. It might be able to autonomously grab a box of donuts from their favorite store by then. And I suppose that could make their day better. But more than that is going to prove difficult... And the drone might be useful, as far as I know drones can really help with police and fire and rescue tasks.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It is a (not really) autonomous vehicle that serves as a launchpad for a drone, which is the thing that does the reconnaissance.

    Like they could just put drones on regular vehicles, but they want to pretend it is something more than that.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This isn’t from ford, they mention in the video is donated by another company

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The electronics might not be from Ford but that vehicle is a Ford Explorer, and probably one with the police package. Ford sells a police package Explorer to several police departments in the US.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It is a safe guess that nobody has self driving Fords more advanced than Ford.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yes. That's what I meant. I'd bet this "Policing Lab" is closer to MTV's Pimp my Ride with Xzibit, than a research institute outperforming Ford at their own cars with cutting-edge research on Lidar, sensor fusion and custom AI training... They likely have someone who does the vinyl on the car, someone who cuts a hole in the roof so the drone can be deployed and an electrician to wire everything to 2 computers and 3 smartphones. Only difference they don't install a whirlpool and a sound system in the back. Okay, there has to be a bit more to this story, but they omit all the interesting (technical) details, I wonder why...

    Edit: And reading their website makes me reconsider what I just said. Seems they have some other surveillance tech to sell and embedded and AI assistance and optimization. Could be a marketing campaign to sell the other stuff. And they themselves don't write a lot about self-driving. From what I gather on their website, the car is supposed to sit somewhere, as deterrence, and provide a live video-feed and scan license plates. That's what it does autonomously, not really drive on its own. And then there's the drone on top and the entire car can be used as an intercom.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Maybe...

    My brother bought a subaru, and then purchased a third party device that interfaced with the car's sensors and made it mostly self-driving. It could handle navigating from his house in an area not quite fully urban, to the main roads, then to the highway, then to wherever his destination was without any input from him aside from the address. None of that was offered from subaru. I wouldn't doubt something similar could be done with other manufacturer's vehicles/sensor systems.

    Sometimes the car manufacturer just doesn't want to implement something like that, while the capability exists.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    So its a police car driving around. What if someone actually needs help? What can just a car do?

    This whole idea is so utterly stupid, I'm at loss of words.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    It can't do anything to help anyone, but it's essentially a mobile Flock camera with license plate tracking and facial recognition. It's a privacy nightmare, and a massive legal liability for the city (Benn Jordan has an excellent video on his YouTube about Flock cameras and how bad they are). Best case scenario is it drives through a deep puddle during the next hurricane and shorts itself out.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I agree. I know your post was serious but I couldn't help thinking of that green goblin truck from that Stephen King movie where tech comes alive. I'm imagine a police car watching a crime in progress and revving it's engine to intimate them.

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    So if it runs over a pedestrian who gets the vacation?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    This is also the state were they legalized running over protesters with your car, so maybe they just want this so that they can stop giving the cops PTSD.
    This bad boy can do all the civilian striking on aidewalks for you and you dont even have to borher fixing the autonomous part.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Queue the scene in V For Vendetta with cars monitoring everyone's phone calls as it drives around.

    Except this fucker can deploy a drone that flies right up to your window and records you

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That was real life not a movie thing. Literally without exaggeration. At the time that movie was made the famous tech for that was called The Stingray.

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    Real life example of being blinded by "can we" instead of "should we". This society needs a great deal of introspection.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I hate cars and I hate AI. Guess what I think of this.

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    Well. If you put a drink in the engine oil that's probably enough to hydrolock it and ruin it. So there's that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was thinking you'd just toss it a cocktail

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Interesting, how does insurance work if the PUG vehicle hits a non/motorist.. so then no one is to blame then??

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Coming soon to all states in America! Corporate sponsored police robots.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    "For us, it's a way we can touch our community like we never have before"

    ... By deploying driverless cruisers?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Finally, hiding in shrubbery will be a thing of the past for the criminal underbrush.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's just disgusting they have the money for this.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    It’s programmed to run over ethnics and then start yelling “HE’S GOT A GUN!” through the speaker while rolling back and forward.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    @PugJesus can claim to be their messiah and stop them being evil!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh. No... nononono... this shit ain't right. That bullshit ain't gonna fly for long... AI controlled police cruisers??? Fuck that! Im not anything like an activist/protester but id set fire to one of those.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Miami - Dade Metro is rife with corruption.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Sometimes destruction of property is a civic duty

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    This is literally a Ray Bradbury short story, The Pedestrian

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