Motor vehicle deaths overall are up, but not nearly to the same degree. From 2009 to 2023, non-pedestrian motor vehicle deaths in the US increased by around 13%, compared to a 78% increase in pedestrian deaths. (The low point in non-pedestrian motor vehicle deaths is actually 2014; deaths are up 20% since then.)

There are a variety of theories for what’s causing this increase in pedestrian deaths. Perhaps the most common theory is that as trucks and SUVs have become both more popular and larger (in height and overall size), pedestrian collisions have become more frequent and more deadly. Another theory (one that’s harder to square with the “US only” nature of the phenomenon) is that drivers are increasingly distracted by smartphones, leading to more accidents. And of course, it could be something else entirely, such as drivers becoming more reckless for some reason.

Looking at the data, the strongest evidence seems to be for the “big SUV” hypothesis: the fatality rate for pedestrian accidents has increased dramatically across a variety of states, pointing to “pedestrian accidents becoming more deadly” as a major cause of the increase. But the case for it isn’t open and shut, as pedestrian deaths involving sedans and compacts have also increased.

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[–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

shitty urban design is a bigger reason than people think

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago*

    Hey now don't forget horribly designed vehicles that are really popular now.

    I see those lifted brodozers everywhere and one literally killed a pedestrian weeks ago in a nesrby city where one of my friends lives.

    If the hood is too tall to see an adult let alone a child, that thing is just gonna drag people under it's tires.

    The low to the ground hood design we had in sedans and coupes was literally a safety feature that allowed a pedestrian who was hit to roll over the top of the vehicle.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    US drivers are notoriously bad drivers.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I mean hey, it's in our constitution: the three unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness—brought to you by Shell, Jeep, and the open stroad, respectively.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    In my Florida city it's high for several reasons:

    Bad underfunded public transportation means everybody and their grandmas are driving whether they should be or not. With sprawl it's difficult to keep a job without a car.

    Cars don't always stop even when pedestrians have the legal right to cross, they have a might makes right mentality or just aren't used to looking for humans in the crosswalk at the intersection.

    I will say that every person here knows someone killed by a car, the rate may look kinda low on a population level but it reaches across all of us, so I don't understand how it doesn't get addressed. The city government here does try, but is constrained by the county and state, and even the lighted crosswalks are often violated, they need gates like a railroad crossing, and more pedestrian bridges. There are a few places we can walk under a bridge here, they are old, and very cool, but no place to cross the river that isn't a car road, not many places to cross the car road except on the surface of the road.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Anyone else feel that site reads like AI? Registered 2023, all posts have the same format. New random articles every 3-4 days complete with research & graphs. Occasionally off topic.

    I've been wrong before though. It's hard for me to identify AI content sometimes.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The one thing that wasn't mentioned is stopping distance of heavier vehicles is longer than lighter vehicles. So if a driver sees a pedestrian and brakes from the same speed and distance is a heavier vehicle they will strike the pedestrian at a higher speed with more mass. This trends up as the average weight of the vehicles trend up over time, which includes both SUVs/trucks and EVs. That would explain the increase in sedan deaths alongside other types of vehicles.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Vehicles aren't actually much heavier than they have been for some time. If you look back through the most popular cars in the US by year, you'll see a lot of land yachts. Every once in a while, you'll see something actually small, like a VW Bug, but then it's right back to big ass metal box.

    The 1980s did see a lot of smaller cars, but it didn't take long before the US went back to heft.

    Conversely, tires and brakes have improved substantially over the years. The stopping distance of modern cars is actually very, very good. This is somewhat negated by a move towards low rolling resistance tires, particularly on hybrids and EVs.

    The height issue on trucks is a way bigger problem. Easy for an adult to be hidden in front of it, to say nothing of kids.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah even sedans have gotten substantially larger and heavier with time. So that could help explain that aspect of it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    For some specific models like the Camry they did not significantly increase in weight but massively increased in lethality so it isn't only weight, but weight is likely to be a part of it.

    The other thing I would blame is how distracting so many car features are distracting now, and a lot of people become reliant on automated warnings that are going to alert them a lot later than if they were just paying attention. The screen in the console being flashy plus not really paying attention is quite the combo but if I understand correctly it wouldn't get counted as distracted driving like with a phone.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have some family that lives in Louisiana and every time I go I'm just horrified by the lack of public amenities. There are just no sidewalks in huge portions of that state. Just huge stretches of long winding two lane roads 45 mph weaving erratically through heavily forested areas with sharp turns and no visibility. No sidewalks on the side just steep drainage ditches. It's a death trap. If you tried to walk on that road, especially at night, you're asking to die. Nobody walks anywhere if they can avoid it. Every time I visit I am just blown away.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Despite this, the article suggests that nearly all of the increase in deadly accidents has come from urban roads.

    If the roads are just as poorly designed as before, the increase has to originate elsewhere.

    Which doesn't mean that road design shouldn't improve. :)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Specifically it looks like the biggest increases are on urban principal arterial and and urban minor arterial. I suspect larger vehicle sizes impact the trend on a broad scale, but consideration should be kept for increasing demand for urban arterial roads, and widening existing ones as metro areas continue to sprawl at more local scales.

    I'd be very interested to see the data on pedestrian deaths by road type contrasted to road infrastructure growth by type. The fact that Rural Principal arterial deaths practically disappeared around the same time that urban arterial deaths started significantly increasing could speak to a change in road classification or area designation between rural and suburban.

    Specifically Rural Arterial deaths decreased by 229 from 2014 to 2015. In the same year urban principal arterial increased by 231 Urban Minor Arterial increased by 136, and rural minor collector increased by 155. While it doesn't account for the entirety of the increase, I think there's enough there to look at how urban arterial roads are designed.

    Edit: Added specificity.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I'm a european who has driven a lot in Texas plus some more around the gulf states.

    Hoboy, where do I begin... Just to name a few off the top of my head:

    • Headlights are lame. Even at night.
    • TRUCKS
    • Awful roads. Even Houston, a very car centric city, has roads made from a blend of 80% concrete and 20% potholes
    • Speed limits seem to be more of a suggestion
    • Tailgating culture
    • Zipper merge, motherfuckers. Ever heard about it?
    • Average vehicle standard is pretty shoddy. I've seen so much that wouldn't be allowed on the road in Europe.
    • Infrastructure and options for non-motorists is pretty much missing, leading to people walking around the feeders
    • Police seem more concerned with enforcing stop signs than anything else traffic related. On that note, build some fucking roundabouts!
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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Because our entire lives are built around cars and not humans. Nobody gives a fuck about people in the US there is profit to be made.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because in a shock between the two steel will often be stronger than muscle and bones? /s... says I, a pedestrian that has not owned a car since the early 00s.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I know it's sarcastic, but that is true universally and thus wouldn't explain a local trend that deviates from the trends on a broader scale.

    That said, I believe there was a study recently that looked at the trend in pedestrian/car fatalities, compared that to the percentage of vehicles on the road classified as trucks, and the relative size and mass of trucks over the years and found some striking correlations. I'll see if I can dig up the study.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The sidewalk is dangerous! Its much safer to walk in the road where the drivers can see you, so they can avoid you. /s

    The real answer is people not paying attention or big truck didn't see.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    From personal experience, people have become more complacent/oblivious when walking.

    I've never seen so many people just blithely walking into a street without looking at the lights, whether I'm driving or walking.

    Even had a pedestrian wait to cross against the walk light and then flip me off the whole time.

    So, yea, I blame pedestrians.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think both drivers and pedestrians using phones is a major factor. Also, the increased use of headphones and especially noise cancelling headphones. And anecdotally, electric cars even with the spaceship sounds just don’t get into peoples heads; people jump in front of my EV all the time in parking lots.

    But blaming pedestrians isn’t really the solution. There is also the fact that there aren’t tests in the USA for pedestrian safety while euro NCAP has pedestrian tests factored into the score. The Americans buy more big suv/trucks than anywhere else, have higher speed limits in pedestrian exposed areas and worse pedestrian infrastructure than anywhere else and then their cars are not built to minimize pedestrian injury.

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