This thread is insane 😂

You misspelled El Sonidito.

Her name's Alexa, so that's one way to think of it.

Yeah, its a decent joke TBH.

I'm one of those guys that struggles to orgasm. Even masturbating I will sometimes last a really long time. It's more a mood thing than a sensation thing for me. I have to have my mind in the right state to orgasm. The good thing about it is I can have sex for as long as my partner wants often.

It's odd, because usually men are the ones who leave their partners wanting. For me my partners pretty much always get more than they bargained for, but I'm frequently left without orgasming. It's fine though. It's still plenty enjoyable without it.

The stories you've lived are the ones that seem more meaningful. For a guy, climax is a given, and sometimes the whole point just for maintenance purposes. The wholesome joy of a thing is made impure by ulterior motives. It took me a while to see it from the other side.

Agree. People dont like being replaced with meaningless objects. People can also rationalize and become used to nearly anything.

"Do you know how many more of my divorced wives would speak ill of me if it wasn't for that good quality vibrator?!"

We god fearing Christian folk don't use any kind of lewd objects when engaging in activities designed to expand the kingdom. They will turn you from an upstanding citizen in to a degenerate back-alley harlot faster than you can say "forgive me father for I have sinned". We get two minutes of dry missionary sex once a month with blindfolds on and only the smallest amount of movement possible to procreate. Anything more is shameful and should be outlawed post haste.

Some dudes are REAL insecure

Btw the magic wand is the answer if you don't like the vibrator idea

The magic wand....vibrator?

Yeah, very wordy. I feel weird.

For sure for sure. I hope that my agreement with this sentiment was clear in my post. But there's nothing about that sentiment that precludes someone from also reasonably wishing that they could bring their partner to orgasm without non-organic, non-self implements.

I'm saying, people shouldn't be averse to using the vibrator - but just because they shouldn't be averse to it doesn't mean that it's bad, dumb, or unreasonable to also wish to not always use the vibrator to orgasm or to have your partner orgasm.

The fact that its impractical doesn't make it a shameful desire that should be eradicated. Some people wish their partner would fill them up with like, 4 cups of semen. That's unrealistic (impossible). If they say "I don't want to fuck you because you never produce 4 cups of semen like how I'd prefer", then that is stupid and bad behavior, just like not making your partner orgasm with a vibrator just because you wish they didn't need it is stupid and bad. But the wishing in itself should not be condemned.

I think the assumption that just because the wish exists, anger also exists is part of the problem that leads to condemnation of the wish. "And if you feel that not being able to make your partner cum the way you want to is a problem? Grow the fuck up." - absolutely true, but just because someone wants their partner to cum in a different way than they actually do, doesn't mean they see it as a problem. It may just be a desire or fantasy. Additionally, if that desire is central to their own sexual satisfaction, it doesn't seem too unreasonable to say that that's not wrong of them but rather an irreconcilable sexual difference. If someone really likes fingerbanging girls, but their girl hates it, that's not a situation where either of them is in the wrong or needs to change what they're attracted to - it's just an incompatibility.

I really don't think it it is harder for vagina owners to achieve orgasm.

I think it's just that nobody has any fucking idea how they work. Including many of the people that have them.

It's dead easy if you take the time to learn.

You can't generalize how fast genders climax. There is no settled science on that, and its something that varies wildly from person to person. There are women out there that reach orgasms with their partners just as quickly as you'd expect a man to.

The whole idea of generalizing intimacy is insanity, honestly.

You know the problem I have? Women don't communicate with their partners. It has been my observation that women would rather gossip with their friends about how bad a man is about sex, than communicate with him to make it better.

The behavior I have got out of women about dating and sex seems to be as much of the effort that goes into the whole thing as possible should be transferred to the man.

• It's his job to ask a woman out.
• It's his job to plan the date.
• It's his job to pick her up and drive her to the restaurant/theater/skating rink/gladiatorial arena.
• It's his job to pay for everything.
• It's his job to drive her to his place.
• It's his job to open the car door for her.
• It's his job to carry her body into the house as she goes limp.
• It's his job to undress her.
• It's his job to undress him.
• It's his job to put on a condom.
• It's his job to fuck her.
• It's his job to give her an orgasm.

All of this ideally without any of her active participation or input, because dating, romance and sex are things that are done to women by men, and her job is to absorb it all like a tampon.

I've been with chicks that didn't seem to care if they came, because they weren't able or willing to articulate what they wanted in bed. If she doesn't care, why should I? It starts eroding your ability to trust women after awhile. What else won't you talk to me about? What other problems are brewing that you're going to explode at me later? What else can I just not take your word for because you won't just talk to me? If this isn't what you want, what DO you want, and what is your plan on getting it? What is this sex eventually going to cost me?

Lesbians of Lemmy, are lesbians as useless as straight women?

Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth