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[–] 158 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Why not just take the High Speed Rail and get there in 45 minutes instead?

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  • [–] 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Hey now, don't knock the Big Boy. He could reach 80mph, that's much faster than most of our rail in the US.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh, I'm just kidding. I've only gotten to see 4014 up close once but man is it impressive.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I looked at taking a train from Albuquerque to Denver for a concert, the trip takes 2-3 days and goes from Albuquerque toto Chicago to Denver and one way cost more than a round trip flight. For reference, it is a 7ish hour drive.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Their long hauls are definitely more vacation based, where the ride is part of the journey - and if you're not into that then I get how you feel. Amtrak has been doing a great job at refocusing on corridors. The east coast obviously, then they're working hard on a few key ones like:

    • Minneapolis to Chicago
    • Portland-Seattle-Vancouver
    • California corridor
    • Eventually, here's hoping, the Frontrange: Pueblo-Colorado Springs-Denver-Fort Collins-Cheyenne.

    Those are all shorter trips that don't make much sense to fly with how short it is, and with a few daily trips makes traveling between those cities much easier. Personally those are much better usages of Amtrak's time. I've taken the Portland-Seattle-Vancouver one multiple times and it's so much nicer than driving - but it's max 4 hours.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I wish they'd upgrade their long haul routes to go faster. There's one from SLC to SF I'm interested in, but it takes 18 hours, vs 11 by car or 2 by plane. If it was faster than driving, I'd consider it to avoid the airport.

    I don't blame them for focusing on the easier trips though.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Same, but with the limited funding I get why. Shorter trips like that make money, long hauls don't - and since they don't own the tracks they can't even upgrade them or begin to do anything. I will say 18 is a lot (especially in a coach seat), but there is a positive of not having to drive. I usually take my steam deck and just zone out. Overnights though are tough in coach, for that you really have to want to be there.

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  • Yeah, if I want to go anywhere interesting, it would be an overnight trip, with kids. A sleeping room is way too expensive, so it's a nonstarter. If it was 3x the speed, it would probably be fine, especially if they left in the morning instead of the evening.

    So yeah, the only train I take is the commuter, and only to go to the airport because there's no connection from the train to my work (there's a way to get there, but the trip would take 2 hours each way). The commuter can't go very fast because it has to stop every 5-10 miles, but it's fine since it goes about as fast as a car.

    So yeah, here's hoping Amtrak can make enough on the east coast to be able to upgrade the west coast.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Their long hauls are definitely more vacation based, where the ride is part of the journey

    I get that, but I was looking for an alternative to driving 14 hours round trip. Even if the trip took 7 hours each way, I am not driving it. But to go from 7 hours to 45 hours is insane. For a show on the 5th of November in Denver I have to leave Albuquerque on the 3rd, then leave Denver on the 6th to get back home on the 8th. $171 for the cheap seats each way.

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  • I live near SLC and go get to San Francisco is about 18 hours, and that's a straight shot. Coach costs about $120, each way, which is about the same price as a non-budget airline. There's only one train each day and it runs from midnight to about 6PM the next day.

    By car it's about 11 hours and about 2 hours by airplane.

    So it's:

    • slower
    • not cheaper, perhaps more expensive if you don't mind budget flights
    • less flexible - one train/day in most cases

    There are tons of places I just can't get to, like Las Vegas.

    If I was retired or something when spending more time was totally fine, I'd consider taking the train. But as it stands, it's just not a practical option unless the train is the destination.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    idk if I want to ride a train that goes at Mach 2.3 personally.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I'll wait until it's proven, then I'll go find a g suit.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That's gonna be a while. Current speed record from what I see for passenger trains is around 350 miles per hour. The quick math I did for getting from NYC to Miami in 45 minutes needed like 1,700mph. From what I'm seeing even the experimental stuff right now doesn't get above 400mph.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Laughs in supercruise

    Concorde is a tailless aircraft design with a narrow fuselage permitting four-abreast seating for 92 to 128 passengers, an ogival delta wing, and a droop nose for landing visibility. It is powered by four Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593 turbojets with variable engine intake ramps, and reheat for take-off and acceleration to supersonic speed. Constructed from aluminium, it was the first airliner to have analogue fly-by-wire flight controls. The airliner had transatlantic range while supercruising at twice the speed of sound for 75% of the distance.[5]

    The fastest transatlantic airliner flight was from New York JFK to London Heathrow on 7 February 1996, aided by a 175 mph (282 km/h) tailwind, by the British Airways G-BOAD, in 2 hours, 52 minutes, 59 seconds from take-off to touchdown.[227] On 13 February 1985, a Concorde charter flight flew from London Heathrow to Sydney in a time of 17 hours, 3 minutes and 45 seconds, including refuelling stops.[228][229]

    Supercruise is sustained supersonic flight of a supersonic aircraft without using afterburner. Many supersonic military aircraft are not capable of supercruise and can maintain Mach 1+ flight only in short bursts with afterburners. Aircraft such as the SR-71 Blackbird are designed to cruise at supersonic speed with afterburners enabled.

    Some fighter jets are capable of supercruise but only at high altitudes and in a clean configuration, so the term may imply "a significant increase in effective combat speed with a full weapons load over existing types".[1] One of the pre-eminent military examples of supercruise is the F-22 Raptor, for which supercruise was defined as "the ability to cruise at speeds of one and a half times the speed of sound or greater without the use of afterburner for extended periods in combat configuration."[2]

    One of the best-known examples of an aircraft capable of supercruise, and the only notable non-military example, was the Concorde. Due to its long service as a commercial airliner, the Concorde holds the record for the most time spent supersonic; more than all other western aircraft combined.[3]

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago* (24 children)

    When I was in college at Eastern New Mexico, which is about 45 minutes west of Amarillo Texas, a couple friends, both from New England, had the bright idea of driving down to the gulf over a 4 day weekend.

    I cautioned them against the idea, trying to explain Texas was bigger than they could imagine. Three hours into the trip we got a motel room in some hole in the wall town and went back to school the next morning.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    What? It takes 24 hours to drive from the Canadian border to Mexico border. Texas is about 770 miles at its widest, that’s a breezy 10-12 hour drive doing the speed limit or just over.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Yeah so nearly half their weekend driving....through Texas. One of the most boring places to drive through.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    24 hours out of 96. I’ve done worse.

    And it can’t be worse than Saskatchewan.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The only place I've driven for multiple hours that was worse than Texas was Nevada. Even rural Indiana is a huge upgrade and that place stinks from soy bean processing (I think?)

    Michigan and California are incredible.

    Looking at Saskatchewan....I dunno man, looks really pretty to me!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Compared to the other provinces, it’s just flat farm fields. When the rapeseed (canola) is blooming it can look pretty, but it’s just yellow flowers for HOURS, no variety.

    Edit, oh and for six months it’s white with snow, and the highway is dead straight, it’s hard to stay awake for the six hours.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Northern Nevada sucks, but southern Nevada near Vegas is fine since it has cool rock structures and whatnot, provided you avoid rush hour.

    I hate most of California because traffic is so awful, but north of SF is pretty.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Coming from a place with no desert or “beaches”, the sand is a cool difference from the rest of the drive down from Canada.

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  • Wait, you're driving south through Nevada? Do yourself a favor and go east to I-15 or west to I-5, both are orders of magnitude better than going north/south through Nevada...

    The only time I drive through Nevada is either from SLC to Lake Tahoe (northern Nevada) or SLC to Vegas/LA (southern tip of Nevada) because the alternative takes way longer.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    You're assuming no traffic in major cities. I've gone from close to the Louisiana border to new Mexico and it took about 16 hours.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Do most cities not have bypasses? In Canada even most small towns have a bypass so you avoid the traffic lights.

    It’s mostly for the semi traffic, the stopping and stopping ruins the roads, so they have a highway going around town to avoid that.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Those highways are often very congested too. It can take like 2 hours just to drive through Houston, even using the loops/beltways

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I guess, but arguably you would only hit one in the day, and the chances of it being during rush hour is slim, can always plan better around that stuff too. Or take secondary highways. There’s not only a single highway going places.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Nope, in America through-traffic goes right through the city center. Fortunately, many cities have innovated to solve this problem by bulldozing their city centers to build more stroads

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's not true in many parts of the country. It's very much a mixed bag. Look at San Antonio, 410 goes around the city and connects the various highways so you don't need to go through the city center to drive past the city. In Seattle, 405 was intended to do that for Seattle to avoid 15, but then Bellevue got huge. In SLC, we have 215.

    Beltroutes are common across the country and are designed to solve exactly this problem.

    Stroads are a different problem unconnected to highways going through cities. In fact, they're often the old highways that went through town and became a stroad when the highway was built. We then built more of them because people liked driving cars to their destination instead of walking or taking transit.

    The best possible bypass won't solve the stroad problem or congestion in the city center. What we need is a complete redesign of what a city center means, which I think should be:

    • exits for a city only at the edges, and no reasonable way to cut through the city
    • tons of free parking at the edge of cities and cheap or free transit from the edge to the city center
    • fantastic mass transit inside of cities
    • car free zone in downtown, so the only way to get there is transit or walking/cycling

    If we can do that, we can rip out stroads to make room for more density in attractions. Keep some roads for trucks to make deliveries and whatnot, and convert the rest to walkable streets.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Having exits isn't the same as "driving through downtown."

    I do agree that we should redo how highways work, and part of that is having fewer exits, but what causes slowdowns isn't the quantity of exits, but the ability to get almost everywhere in a car. In other words, the number of exits are a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. The highway infrastructure is in the right place much of the time, the issue is the rest of the infrastructure.

    We don't need more bypasses or lanes, we need driving to be less convenient than transit and walking for short trips. I think one simple change would improve things greatly: cut major arteries in the middle to prevent getting from one edge of the city to the other quickly by car. Basically, restrict those areas to delivery trucks, buses, and emergency services, and force the rest of the traffic to filter through side streets. Just that amount of inconvenience would push a bunch of people to use transit instead, and the areas cut off could be converted to a street.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah downtown to me means lights every block, some towns are absolutely like that, but they’re not on any “shipping” or major highways. So if you’re traveling across country, you’re not going to be on those highways anyways.

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  • I guess there are two types of highways:

    • freeways - no lights, and what I usually refer to when I say "highway"
    • inter-city highway - pretty much like any other road, but there's a constant name between cities - usually get replaced by freeways, but keep the name (e.g. State Street in Utah, 516 in WA [272nd coming off I-18], etc)

    My understanding is that most people don't refer to the second as a highway, they're just arterial roads most people in the area are familiar with.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I went on a cross Canada car drive in the early 2000s. We left from Sudbury Ontario to make it to the west coast in BC. We took our time, sight seeing and making many stops along the way. Ten days later we made it to Vancouver.

    The best part was that on our sixth day, we ran into a friend in Medicine Hat, Alberta. He had left Kapuskasing, Ontario the day before and was expecting to make it to Vancouver in about 60 hours with non stop driving. His eyes were so blood shot and he was literally shaking from all the caffeine drinks, pills and coffee he had been taking. He had some strangers with him that he had picked up as hitch hikers and he said they were keeping him awake.

    We worried about him the whole time but he called us two days later to say he made it. We caught up with him three days later.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    West Texas alone is an 8 hours between Las Cruces and San Antonio, and it's the same damn rock and shrub for the entire 8 hours.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    We were headed Portales to Corpus Christi, which according to Apple Maps is about 9 1/2 hours. We did not have Apple Maps then, we had Rand McNally. So at best it would have taken us 11 hours. And yes everything looked the same.

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  • [–] 113 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A 2 hour drive in Miami will get you to…north Miami

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Conversely, I, as an American who had the opportunity to spend a few months in Germany, was surprised at how close all the countries were.

    Great culture in all the places I went (Brussels and Prague were my two standout favorites!) Traveling was hella cheap. The food was fire everywhere I went. The architecture was INCREDIBLE. And the knowledge that you could go to the hospital for less than $100 was nuts. Don't even get me started on how legitimately cool it is to sit in a 1000 year old pub.

    I didn't want to come back. I nearly cried when I got the return flight info.

    It still shocks me to tell people "Yeah, I lived in Germany for a bit and some weekends we would fuck off to France."

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The borders of European countries are great because there's all this security infrastructure that they've built but then they don't use any of it. There's always just a bunch of ballads and you have to drive around little security checkpoints but there's never anyone around.

    My personal favourite is Geneva which is kind of just an extended bit of Switzerland because the city was already there, but really by any logical sense it should be in France. So they deal with that by basically just ignoring it, and people just pop to and fro all the time.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    In America, 100 years is a long time
    In Europe, 100 miles is a long distance

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Tf is a mile, bruv? Don't come in 'ere with these nonsensical made up freedom units

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Miles originated in Britain, so talk to them about their made-up nonsense.

    At least they were eventually willing to give up the imperial system. I still don't understand why Americans never got on board with metric; it's so much easier.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    Just watched a video which explains a few things.

    Time zones start in UK because of some decent reasoning. France was also a contender for where timezones start for the same kinds of reasoning but conceded it in agreement that UK adopts the new metric system they created

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If I remember my conversions right then a mile is 5280 kilometers. I hope that helps explain why Europeans would fear such a distance!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Tf. Why would anyone have a unit for that

    "A benpu is 327 meters!"

    …wait a minute… am I being made a fool of? Can't tell, cuz I don't comprehend dumb units. I'd legit buy that as a real thing, given how stupid those tend to be

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  • A US customary mile is 5280 US customary feet. 1 US customary foot is 12 US customary inches. 1 US customary inch is 25.4mm. So a US customary mile is 1609344mm, exactly. It derives from the roman "mille passus", literally 1000 paces, where a pace is the distance between two impacts of the left (or right) foot of a Roman soldier on the march. Quite a few other cultures used a "mile" of some sort even after the fall of Rome, for example the old British imperial mile was 1760 British imperial yards, one British imperial yard predated the definition of the meter but was most precisely measured to be 0.914398415m, so the British imperial mile was 1609341.21mm. Other culture's miles varied even more than this.

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  • [–] 96 points 1 year ago (18 children)
  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Ahem, it's the Gulf of America. Please get your facts right

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    why is this being downvoted, have y'all never heard of sarcasm?

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Sorry, I should have tagged it properly.

    Warning! Sarcasm ahead.

    Ahem, it's the Gulf of America. Please get your facts right

    Edit: Jerboa eating me tags. Let us try it this way:

    <sarcasm>Ahem, it's the Gulf of America. Please get your facts right</sarcasm>

    Edit2: while we're at it, why not try further

    Edit3: Thanks for the gold, kind strangler stranger

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    There is absolutely no way to determine if somebody is being facetious or serious over the Internet without further context. (Use a damn /s ffs)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Who could be serious saying that ??? (I don't think Donald is posting here onlemmy)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    77 million people voted for trump in 2024. Even if you subtract the 50% that can't write, that leaves more than 38 million people who could seriously say this on Lemmy. Don't pretend that the orange clown ruined the country all by himself.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Let's call it the gulf of middle earth

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Only if marlago is designated americas rectum.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Shout out the 1 hour 45 minute drive from JFK to just over the bridge into Jersey

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