Why not just take the High Speed Rail and get there in 45 minutes instead?
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When I was in college at Eastern New Mexico, which is about 45 minutes west of Amarillo Texas, a couple friends, both from New England, had the bright idea of driving down to the gulf over a 4 day weekend.
I cautioned them against the idea, trying to explain Texas was bigger than they could imagine. Three hours into the trip we got a motel room in some hole in the wall town and went back to school the next morning.
What? It takes 24 hours to drive from the Canadian border to Mexico border. Texas is about 770 miles at its widest, that’s a breezy 10-12 hour drive doing the speed limit or just over.
Yeah so nearly half their weekend driving....through Texas. One of the most boring places to drive through.
24 hours out of 96. I’ve done worse.
And it can’t be worse than Saskatchewan.
The only place I've driven for multiple hours that was worse than Texas was Nevada. Even rural Indiana is a huge upgrade and that place stinks from soy bean processing (I think?)
Michigan and California are incredible.
Looking at Saskatchewan....I dunno man, looks really pretty to me!
Compared to the other provinces, it’s just flat farm fields. When the rapeseed (canola) is blooming it can look pretty, but it’s just yellow flowers for HOURS, no variety.
Edit, oh and for six months it’s white with snow, and the highway is dead straight, it’s hard to stay awake for the six hours.
Northern Nevada sucks, but southern Nevada near Vegas is fine since it has cool rock structures and whatnot, provided you avoid rush hour.
I hate most of California because traffic is so awful, but north of SF is pretty.
Coming from a place with no desert or “beaches”, the sand is a cool difference from the rest of the drive down from Canada.
Wait, you're driving south through Nevada? Do yourself a favor and go east to I-15 or west to I-5, both are orders of magnitude better than going north/south through Nevada...
The only time I drive through Nevada is either from SLC to Lake Tahoe (northern Nevada) or SLC to Vegas/LA (southern tip of Nevada) because the alternative takes way longer.
You're assuming no traffic in major cities. I've gone from close to the Louisiana border to new Mexico and it took about 16 hours.
Do most cities not have bypasses? In Canada even most small towns have a bypass so you avoid the traffic lights.
It’s mostly for the semi traffic, the stopping and stopping ruins the roads, so they have a highway going around town to avoid that.
Those highways are often very congested too. It can take like 2 hours just to drive through Houston, even using the loops/beltways
Nope, in America through-traffic goes right through the city center. Fortunately, many cities have innovated to solve this problem by bulldozing their city centers to build more stroads
That's not true in many parts of the country. It's very much a mixed bag. Look at San Antonio, 410 goes around the city and connects the various highways so you don't need to go through the city center to drive past the city. In Seattle, 405 was intended to do that for Seattle to avoid 15, but then Bellevue got huge. In SLC, we have 215.
Beltroutes are common across the country and are designed to solve exactly this problem.
Stroads are a different problem unconnected to highways going through cities. In fact, they're often the old highways that went through town and became a stroad when the highway was built. We then built more of them because people liked driving cars to their destination instead of walking or taking transit.
The best possible bypass won't solve the stroad problem or congestion in the city center. What we need is a complete redesign of what a city center means, which I think should be:
- exits for a city only at the edges, and no reasonable way to cut through the city
- tons of free parking at the edge of cities and cheap or free transit from the edge to the city center
- fantastic mass transit inside of cities
- car free zone in downtown, so the only way to get there is transit or walking/cycling
If we can do that, we can rip out stroads to make room for more density in attractions. Keep some roads for trucks to make deliveries and whatnot, and convert the rest to walkable streets.
Having exits isn't the same as "driving through downtown."
I do agree that we should redo how highways work, and part of that is having fewer exits, but what causes slowdowns isn't the quantity of exits, but the ability to get almost everywhere in a car. In other words, the number of exits are a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. The highway infrastructure is in the right place much of the time, the issue is the rest of the infrastructure.
We don't need more bypasses or lanes, we need driving to be less convenient than transit and walking for short trips. I think one simple change would improve things greatly: cut major arteries in the middle to prevent getting from one edge of the city to the other quickly by car. Basically, restrict those areas to delivery trucks, buses, and emergency services, and force the rest of the traffic to filter through side streets. Just that amount of inconvenience would push a bunch of people to use transit instead, and the areas cut off could be converted to a street.
Yeah downtown to me means lights every block, some towns are absolutely like that, but they’re not on any “shipping” or major highways. So if you’re traveling across country, you’re not going to be on those highways anyways.
I guess there are two types of highways:
- freeways - no lights, and what I usually refer to when I say "highway"
- inter-city highway - pretty much like any other road, but there's a constant name between cities - usually get replaced by freeways, but keep the name (e.g. State Street in Utah, 516 in WA [272nd coming off I-18], etc)
My understanding is that most people don't refer to the second as a highway, they're just arterial roads most people in the area are familiar with.
I went on a cross Canada car drive in the early 2000s. We left from Sudbury Ontario to make it to the west coast in BC. We took our time, sight seeing and making many stops along the way. Ten days later we made it to Vancouver.
The best part was that on our sixth day, we ran into a friend in Medicine Hat, Alberta. He had left Kapuskasing, Ontario the day before and was expecting to make it to Vancouver in about 60 hours with non stop driving. His eyes were so blood shot and he was literally shaking from all the caffeine drinks, pills and coffee he had been taking. He had some strangers with him that he had picked up as hitch hikers and he said they were keeping him awake.
We worried about him the whole time but he called us two days later to say he made it. We caught up with him three days later.
I live in Arkansas and went on vacation to South Padre Island a few years ago. It's a 16 hour drive one way.
West Texas alone is an 8 hours between Las Cruces and San Antonio, and it's the same damn rock and shrub for the entire 8 hours.
A 2 hour drive in Miami will get you to…north Miami
Conversely, I, as an American who had the opportunity to spend a few months in Germany, was surprised at how close all the countries were.
Great culture in all the places I went (Brussels and Prague were my two standout favorites!) Traveling was hella cheap. The food was fire everywhere I went. The architecture was INCREDIBLE. And the knowledge that you could go to the hospital for less than $100 was nuts. Don't even get me started on how legitimately cool it is to sit in a 1000 year old pub.
I didn't want to come back. I nearly cried when I got the return flight info.
It still shocks me to tell people "Yeah, I lived in Germany for a bit and some weekends we would fuck off to France."
The borders of European countries are great because there's all this security infrastructure that they've built but then they don't use any of it. There's always just a bunch of ballads and you have to drive around little security checkpoints but there's never anyone around.
My personal favourite is Geneva which is kind of just an extended bit of Switzerland because the city was already there, but really by any logical sense it should be in France. So they deal with that by basically just ignoring it, and people just pop to and fro all the time.
I submitted a job application once to Freiburg. One of the main reasons was that if I'm unhappy with the food selection, both France and Switzerland is something like 20kms away
I loved Prague too. Had a local guide that took me to cool places, I drank a lot. 👍
In America, 100 years is a long time
In Europe, 100 miles is a long distance
Tf is a mile, bruv? Don't come in 'ere with these nonsensical made up freedom units
Miles originated in Britain, so talk to them about their made-up nonsense.
At least they were eventually willing to give up the imperial system. I still don't understand why Americans never got on board with metric; it's so much easier.
Just watched a video which explains a few things.
Time zones start in UK because of some decent reasoning. France was also a contender for where timezones start for the same kinds of reasoning but conceded it in agreement that UK adopts the new metric system they created
I still don't understand why Americans never got on board with metric
Because fuck you!
Yeah, 'Muricans be like "B-but… the Brits…"
Like, yeah. They moved on. They evolved, changed their ways. USians hanging on to legacy units
If I remember my conversions right then a mile is 5280 kilometers. I hope that helps explain why Europeans would fear such a distance!
Tf. Why would anyone have a unit for that
"A benpu is 327 meters!"
…wait a minute… am I being made a fool of? Can't tell, cuz I don't comprehend dumb units. I'd legit buy that as a real thing, given how stupid those tend to be
A US customary mile is 5280 US customary feet. 1 US customary foot is 12 US customary inches. 1 US customary inch is 25.4mm. So a US customary mile is 1609344mm, exactly. It derives from the roman "mille passus", literally 1000 paces, where a pace is the distance between two impacts of the left (or right) foot of a Roman soldier on the march. Quite a few other cultures used a "mile" of some sort even after the fall of Rome, for example the old British imperial mile was 1760 British imperial yards, one British imperial yard predated the definition of the meter but was most precisely measured to be 0.914398415m, so the British imperial mile was 1609341.21mm. Other culture's miles varied even more than this.
upvote for Gulf of Mexico
Ahem, it's the Gulf of America. Please get your facts right
why is this being downvoted, have y'all never heard of sarcasm?
Sorry, I should have tagged it properly.
Warning! Sarcasm ahead.
Ahem, it's the Gulf of America. Please get your facts right
Edit: Jerboa eating me tags. Let us try it this way:
<sarcasm>Ahem, it's the Gulf of America. Please get your facts right</sarcasm>
Edit2: while we're at it, why not try further
Edit3: Thanks for the gold, kind strangler stranger
It's a lazy joke that the other person already made better.
The sarcasm/joke is obvious, it just wasn't funny.
There is absolutely no way to determine if somebody is being facetious or serious over the Internet without further context. (Use a damn /s ffs)
Who could be serious saying that ??? (I don't think Donald is posting here onlemmy)
Let's call it the gulf of middle earth
Nope, it's the Gulf of America. He said so. Now quit your anti-US retorics lest you be deported.
Is this one of those weird maps with the equator going through Florida?
Gondor is going to need a lot more aid to move that gulf to the middle...
Only if marlago is designated americas rectum.
Silly! The game you play when the facts keep changing and the rules don't matter
Shout out the 1 hour 45 minute drive from JFK to just over the bridge into Jersey

Holy crap, just shoot me out a cannon, I'll get there sooner or die, either is preferable
Coming into the city through the tunnel was wild. Huge contrast in the amount of traffic.
"Would you like to try this alternate route that saves you negative 13 minutes and negative $5.44?"

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