They have that new North East or New England health pact thing! They’re working on stuff, but I think they’re rightfully taking stock of what areas they can afford to hit back on. California can basically take care of itself so we have a lot less to lose if the feds try to shut us down.

There’s a lot of old money up there. And if I’ve learned anything through 2 of his terms, it’s that money is willing to vote against its seemingly better judgement for a few dollars more of a tax break.

I can't wait until y'all just balkanize already; I'm sure that when the dust settles, some parts of the former United States will be worth visiting. Until it happens and actual names are picked, I've been calling your chunk New New England

We've got something like 6.4 million Conservatives in California. Something to consider, they won't just accept no longer being a part of the U.S. .

Maybe, but freedom is worth fighting for.

Also, remember that during the revolutionary war the French provided support. I’m sure there are lots of countries that, in a civil war, would join with California in providing defensive equipment and offensive weapons. We’re also 10% of the US population with a whole mountain range providing protection and desserts between us and the rest of the “mainland.” So logistically we’re covered very well if we really have to.

They can consider us whatever they want as long as we’re winners I don’t care.

The USA wouldn't have a western seaboard if California and the western states secede

Damn. Maybe they shouldn't kick us out, then.

also thats where the SEALs train for enlistees corondo, yea they arnt letting it go.

wasnt the whole point of the NCR about showing this dinosaur of an organization failing to adapt to the new state of the world, trying in futility to carry on under the old rules that lead to the worlds annihilation in the first place, repeating the same mistakes over and over while things are were now even less sustainable/forgiving....

meanwhile the ceasers legion was harsh but fair, ceasers territory didn't suffer bandit attacks any longer because ceasers legion when to great lengths to exterminate them and insure the conditions where they flourished didn't exist

bethesda just fucked em on dev time so they had to cut all content on ceasers side of the river

They've been doing it for decades. We're on step 6 or something.

I also wish they would call for protests over some of the heinous things. Break through with messaging. Make it clearer what the Republicans are doing. Some credit is due, though.

Yeah, but imagine living next door to such a shitty neighbour?

Better idea: the Union should be preserved at all cost. We will not abandon our fellow citizens to being enslaved and persecuted by MAGA scum.

How?