Source of news: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/7/ice-launches-military-style-raids-in-los-angeles-what-we-know

This is Stephen Miller's (White House Deputy Chief) response to Karen Bass (Los Angeles Mayor).

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[–] 216 points 1 year ago (16 children)

So much for "state's rights."

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  • [–] 145 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Fascists are never to be taken seriously when they say that they're very worried about protecting anything.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Another 5-10 years in power and they'll legalize conversion therapy and honor killings against gay and trans kids and call it "parental rights".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It’ll be anyone with it a red hat on being chased down by then. Trump will be a full vegetable if not dead by then, and the Vance/Miller/Heritage crowd will have found a way to take absolute power. Otherwise the whole thing will collapse and we might have a shot at reclaiming the country.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    You have a shot now, you’re just not taking it.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Time for the Sartre quote:

    Never believe that anti-Semites fascists are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites fascists have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Irony & Stephen being an arch-ghoul notwithstanding, federal law does supercede state law (Art 6 Sec 2). Like, Nebraska couldn't just legalize murder. They could stop enforcing that law, but it'd still be illegal and the federal gov't could take action.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    federal law does supercede state law (Art 6 Sec 2)

    Only to the extent that the Federal law is constitutional (ie within its powers) and valid

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's a fair point. But it would need to be argued in the courts.

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  • Mmm, maybe, I'm pretty sure there's pretty solid case law precedent on this. It's been heavily litigated over the centuries.

    The parameters around what is within the jurisdiction of the US Federal govt is pretty clear. Fundamentally Article I, Section 8 of US Constitution although there's a few other loose ends (implied powers).

    "The enumerated powers listed in Article One include both exclusive federal powers, as well as concurrent powers that are shared with the states, and all of those powers are to be contrasted with reserved powers that only the states possess"

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  • [–] 174 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The Feds aren't even following federal law.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    A 30+ felon who tried to overthrow the government, and stole enough classified docs to be imprisoned for millennia, is the president.

    There is no "federal law". There is only a fascist dictatorship — a kakistocracy with nothing but the illusion of authority — and the millions of people who let this failed-state clown show continue.

    Like, I am genuinely baffled that in the most heavily armed county on Earth, with hundreds of thousands of veterans with PTSD, shat on for decades... How is the attempted murder of the people in charge not a daily occurrence? Shit's wild yo!

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  • [–] 114 points 1 year ago*

    - Known Nazi and self described white supremacist, Stephen Miller

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  • [–] 107 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Nice, if there's ever a democratic president again, let's use that precedent to completely fuck Texas and the other theocracies when they try to make bible shit into law again

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I love how the liberals dreams of "revenge" are of not allowing others to be oppressed by some fucked up law.

    I mean. I get it. Don't get me wrong. But if the dream of liberals in power is just "things aren't getting much worse for awhile" I really think we need to reprioritize.

    My idea of left seizing power and being "authoritarian" is enacting universal healthcare, high speed rail, billionaires in jail, ending garbage AI waste, and much more material actions.

    If our idea is just to "stick it" to some racist people in Texas I think we need to rethink that plan. I want those racist people in Texas to have all of the things above too. I want the material conditions to improve for everyone because I know that that is what helps to end these manufactured divisions of race, gender, or religion.

    Our goals can't be to just play whackamole with fucked up laws in red states.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I think red states need to be humbled, and I live in one. Not that they should be denied those things, but never given another opportunity or concession as in post civil war.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lmao they'll change their tune very quickly if that happens

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If there's ever a non-trumpikan president of this country again they must declare the Republican party a fascist organization, its members arrested, its symbols hate speech, and ban everyone from supporting or promoting their ideas again. Anything less is, frankly, complicity with what's happening now.

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  • [–] 91 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    hold on, this is from the "states rights" lot, right?

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    I think Miller is more a mix of Joseph Goebbels and Wormtongue, both sycophants seeking to advance on the backs of others.

    Smeagol was basically a good guy until he was enchanted by evil. Miller brings evil with him.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    I think of Miller as more like Himmler, which is why I call him PeeWee Himmler. Bannon is more analogous to Goebbels.

    Goebbels was on the propaganda side, while Himmler was on the Final Solution side.

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  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago

    The party of "small government", trampling over the rights of the state of California, one of the largest economies in the world.

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  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The party of "state's rights".

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Executive orders ARE NOT LAW!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The law doesn't matter unless the president says it does. We can disagree but it doesn't matter until he is removed.

    EOs are far more powerful because they trigger actual action by federal agencies.

    It may not be how we learned it in Social Studies, but this is the streets.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    States rights...to own slaves. Individual rights...to extract profit. Divine Federal right to smash dissent.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago

    States rights! Until I see anything I DONT LIKE, then unlimited power federal government!

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The "states' rights" crowd is not very supportive of states' right, right now.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    “States’ rights” has always been a bullshit lie. The confederacy did not honor states rights. The constitution explicitly instituted slavery as an institution an individual state could not abolish.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Little punk sure talks big when you can't reach his little pencil neck. If federal law was as supreme as he plays up, him and his entire bunch would be behind bars right now

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Easy to sound like a big man when you're shouting from behind a few hundred marines.

    But that's sort of the crux of the issue. Miller has the Miller-tary at his beck and call while Mayor Bass will be lucky if half her LAPD don't turn and open fire on her because they say they smelled weed. The folks with the guns seem absolutely gleeful in stomping their boots on the necks of LA residents.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Where are all the right wing states rights mouthbreathers now?

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    It's somewhat hyperbolic to say a lot on the right are actual nazis, but this dude is the most neo-Nazi motherfucker and deserves everything that should come to Nazis.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What a shithead, we've fought rebellions in this country over goddamn stamps and whiskey, and they really imagine material conditions are good enough that this sort of behavior will be tolerated amidst their ill advised trade war?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, the last time a rebellion happened, it was to reinstate full blown fascism, and what few concessions were pissed away because we got too comfortable, and when that wore off everyone was too soft to venture anything, with a few notable exceptions.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    No, Stephen, it isn't. Fuck off and die.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Let me be devil's advocate here for a sec.
    Yes it is. Unless a federal law breaks any federal law, international laws, treaties or human rights its latterly the highest level of law in a democratic country in this modern world.

    (And also, i agree with the major. If your community thrives or immigrants fills gaps in the community then fucking let them. Your community is better for it)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Federal law in USA is supposed to cover mostly commerce and interstate matters (and enforcement of constitutional rights) and what the states allow the federal government to manage. The federal gov is created as a contract between the states and a delegation of power from them.

    So no. It's kinda unusual in that way too, compared to other countries formed from multiple states.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Suppose and what is in its power is a different thing. Imo federal law, just like eu law, should be law that all members must implement but should only be made for the better of the population as a whole, no matter their origins, social status, living status or whatever. Humanity goes first (oh no! Socialism aaaahhhh!! /s). One could say that those laws are interstate matters btw :p

    But has usa really been setup for federal level laws to mean... Nothing for the states and its people..?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Fortunately, there already are quite a lot of laws limiting federal power, so maybe stop agreeing with the fascists as they rewrite reality by fiat

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    I would expect nothing less from a literal nazi.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Everyone hates you, Stephen.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's a good quote democrats should use if they're ever back in power.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh, the cretin whose wife is off banging Elon at spacex? Get your cuck on, Stevie.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Steven Miller has got to be high on the list of most punchable faces

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Stop paying taxes. Let miller figure out how he’s gonna pay the military to keep up this supreme leader bullshit.

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