They’re never responsible, they only point and blame

Funny you should mention it, the support for far right parties in several European countries collapsed once they get into government. Turns out they are all bark and no human articulation. But it is risky to just let the far right take power and let them make mistakes for everyone to see, as we are seeing right now in America.

It's too bad there doesn't seem to be a profit to the cartel gangs to come out and fight the ICE gangs. They'd win if they did.

And the rest would be fighting the MAGA crowd...

#1 way you know they aren't actually going after "the bad guys". No shootouts.

They sent an army after the cartels and Tren. They literally blew up two boats which was complete overkill considering the adversary.

they also have GUNS, are much prone to using it. ice hires very out of shape people on undefended people, not people that will shoot at the moments notice.

The problem is the local yokels outside the city don’t see this as a good point, but as him being a sniveling fool who needs a Real Man like Trump to run his city. And that’s because they have a very different worldview.

Most same people, like us, see being bad or good as something you do, and as such, with proper care and help and education you can do better.

They, on the other hand, see bad and good as something you are, a sort of fundamental birth stat that can never change. That’s why they think these ICE raids are a good thing, that’s why they want prisons to just be wholly punitive, that’s why they’re fine with writing off whole groups. Because those people are Bad, and so they will always do Bad Things, and only naive fools think that Bad People can become Good.

The really troubling part of their worldview, though, is a lot of them seem to think Bad radiates out from these people/groups and infects things around them.

To paraphrase, since I’ve heard multiple versions of it, “Imagine if instead he sent hundreds of engineers, hundreds of teachers, or hundreds of addiction specialists.”

We treat these professions as a public cost that drags the economy with debt and taxes. By contrast, ICE and the National Guard are always somehow paid for with free money.

There's never anything in the budget for engineers or teachers or physicians. Only armed thugs.

Trump has no interest in improving America, only in being a strongman dictator.

Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.

It's impossible not to see them as storm troopers in literally every way

Lmao, imagine ICE in a gang shootout.

Liberal fantasies. This is one way that Biden simply carried the torch for Trump.

There's some interesting implications here. ICE is well documented as wearing body armor and carrying heavy weaponry. In a planned ambush or head-on attack, an opposing force might be inclined to show up with overwhelming odds and a lot more firepower. It's classic escalation. It would almost certainly be a lethal firefight.

Now that I think about it, regular folks might be inclined to gang-up if they consider themselves under threat. If they're not already.

This so much. Imagine growing up around gun violence and poverty. You could easily end up in a gang where you commit a couple of armed robberies and are involved in a couple of murders. The question is, what will this person do when a some wannabe gestapo show up trying to arrest them.

What's the recourse for that? Do the surviving relatives of the disappeared sue the government? How much does that cost?

I hope history forgets them and remembers their acts.

Their new thing is waiting outside of immigration court rooms.

Hey if they actually started dealing with the street gangs, I'd grab some popcorn and watch. From a distance, I don't even live in the US.

With them deporting and/or murdering a lot of people working low-end jobs... Yeah I don't think Americans want to do some of those jobs. The folks that have said raising the minimum wage would raise prices for everything are going to find out what happens if you raise the wages making sure there's no-one who would do the job.

Violent criminals are good for the Trump brand. Ultimately, they would prefer a string of high profile Iryna Zarutska stabbing incidents and Charlie Kirk shootings, because it helps to justify their gestapo tactics and their disregard for any rule of law.

The goal is to ethnically cleanse the United States. But the optics have to be about these endless crime waves that justify squads of masked thugs dragging mothers away by their hair and beating delivery drivers on the street.

Nothing good was ever achieved by emulating the US. I would think the UK would be smarter than that.

Unfortunately, many in the USA do not in fact see it the way it is. If anything his immigration policy is the thin thread holding him up while his tariffs weigh him down, in terms of public support.

When has he ever?

Nothing wrong with being fat. Fascism is the problem.

That was your first thought wasnt it?

You are so close yet so far.

Because they claim to be after violent illegals who are in gangs or part of cartels like MS13?

They have nabbed more legal citizens than actually illegal immigrants. They only check the color of your skin, not your papers.

You're either trolling or genuinely out of the loop. They don't care if they're in the US legally or not, they've been deporting people with valid visas, green card holders and even US citizens. The Supreme Court decided it was ok for ICE to target people based on their appearance. Plus jumping the border isn't a criminal offense, just a civil one, which is like saying we should deport people for speeding

Do the words "due process" mean anything to you?

Why is any kind of immigration illegal? Why is it so hard to move to this country?

Because racists got themselves put in charge, and they made it illegal.

No one is illegal on stolen land.

One would think they are going after gangs considering they claim every immigrant they catch is from some international gang.