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[–] 3 points 1 year ago

Thst article has been taken down, i found it here

https://metro.co.uk/2025/09/17/dystopian-toilets-wont-give-loo-roll-unless-watch-advert-first-24189061/

i suspect because its shit journalism and a nothingburger, another look what i saw on instagram, i am a reporter

the article alos suggests this is to stop people taking the piss so to speak with how much they take and use generally

so while i don't agree, yes i can imagine this, toilets need up keep, this is a way to manage it, there are plenty of places were you must pay to use a toilet, and there are plenty of out of order free toilets

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Please wipe a verification ass.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Effing capitalists Lmao

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Is that anything like an egg roll?

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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    When will people learn that any advertising that occurs during extortion like this is the focal point of hate and fear?

    This is like anti-advertising.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They count on you recognising the brand name and eventually forgetting why.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It's not "they count", it's a working conversion. Which is why it's being stuffed everywhere.

    Recognition absolutely trumps everything. You'll be more suspicious of a noname good thing looking good and cheap than of recognizable bad thing looking bad and expensive.

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  • [–] 76 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sounds like a job for looBlock Origin or a PeeHole.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The advertisers demand to view any generated log.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is an improvement. A lot just don't have any paper at all because they are afraid people will steal it and bring it home

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Funny, everyone perceives China to be some socialist giant. I just spent a week there and it's more capitalist and consumer centric than anything I've ever seen. Certainly more than Singapore, USA, UK. All the brands x all the shopping. It's not a tourist spot, it's a shopping experience.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    everyone perceives China to be some socialist giant

    No they don't.

    You're not the only one with functioning eyes.

    I don't even remember seeing a person actually arguing China is in any way communist. Just like people don't argue that NK is a democracy despite them calling themselves one.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Holy shit you can't be that childish.

    Okay, let's go with "socialist" then because you're so childish that you're pretending like the form of socialism China is known to claim to be isn't communism.

    If you have to pretend to be that stupid, then perhaps you're not in a good position, argument-wise.

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    What is sad is people like you who can't back up the things they say, and don't even try to.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    China is a unitary communist state led by the CCP that self-designates as a socialist state.

    All I've said is that in my personal experience visiting China this socialist state feels more capitalist than many other countries due to the insane amount of consumerism and mass consumption.

    This is due to reform and opening up in 1978 and a burgeoning middle class with significant purchasing power.

    I'm not belittling China with these facts, I'm merely observing what has happened.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Wouldn't people use tissues and cause pipe blockage in the long run?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    My sweet summer child. Oh how green you are. You put the poopy paper in the poopy paper bucket next to the hole in the floor that you squat over and pray you hit the hole. You also put the poopy paper in the poopy paper bucket next to your toilet at home.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Very socialism much Marx wow

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You've always paid for TP in China. At least now there's a way to get it for free. I see this as an improvement.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    On one hand, the government can absolutely afford to piss money away on stolen toilet rolls or whatever. On the other hand, this locking-down only happened because some people couldn't be trusted and did the stealing in the first place. If everyone had respect for public amenities this wouldn't have happened

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Tell ya what. You're about to get half of my handkerchief and we'll call it even.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I have declared war on all toilet based advertising

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    If only we had something shitty and easily spreadable at hand that could be applied to the screen on order to inconvenience the operator of the extortion device.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Good thing I always have my multi-tool with me.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It's been a while since I've been to China. But even in the 2000s it was not uncommon to have to pay for toilet paper at a vending machine. Not at all public facilities but the more local you went, the fewer tourists would be there, the more this happens. So getting roll for watching an ad is an improvement.

    And as the article points out, they cannot have nice things, i.e. free sandpaper toilet roll, because people will just steal it. I feel like this becomes exponentially less dystopian when you frame it as you can either have no paper at all or watch the ad/pay for it.

    And there is another cultural difference. The Chinese are more like the Romans when it comes to these bodily functions. Much more willing to take care of it communally or at a hole in the ground surrounded by a thigh high "modesty" barrier. So asking an attendant for extra roll is something that the majority of Chinese would have less of a problem with, I think.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    i.e. free sandpaper toilet roll, because people will just steal it.

    So they call it socialism but have no working social safety net?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You have inadvertently hit the nail on the head. They just call it socialism. There are several shades of poverty, for different reasons. One shade is due to the fact that a lot of services, like welfare, education, and medical, are only available to you in your hometown, probably the one you were born in. But if you have migrated from bf nowhere Gansu province to a big city where the jobs are, you rid yourself of that safety net. It's hard/costly to change this hometown registration so most don't and become quasi undocumented workers in their own country. And they are the ones who work insane hours in shitty and dangerous work conditions and it's then who will look for anything to save a yuan.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I had a rural hukou so I couldn't go to public school in a city. There was like this "private" school which mean money out of pocket and is supposedly worse than the public schools (its opposite of the US, where private schools are better), and thats where I went to school for the grade 1 and 2.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Not necessarily true. You're guaranteed work and a minimum wage and if you're disabled government will take care of you. Also basic healthcare is basically free. Things like electricity and telecom are subsidized too. But no, it's definitely not a socialist utopia. It's oppressive and censored and restrictive. Hyper consumerism is the norm.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And there is another cultural difference. The Chinese are more like the Romans when it comes to these bodily functions. Much more willing to take care of it communally or at a hole in the ground surrounded by a thigh high “modesty” barrier.

    What lol?

    I don't think so?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So late stage communism is the same as late stage capitalism. Toilet paper for me but not for thee.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I would start the ad, fish my shit out of the toilet, and smear it across the screen so I wouldn't have to watch it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    And you need a phone to view them. It would be quite shitty if you don't have one, or the battery just decided to die on you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Coming to you from the country where HOAs are funded by ad monitors installed in almost every elevator in commercial/residential high-rises, and public restrooms (even in the hospital!) never stock toilet paper because "people will steal it" (not joking)? Color me surprised...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The solution to putting ads in bathrooms is that they can be easily defaced.

    Unless China is crazy enough to record their people in the bathroom, which I wouldn't put past them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    , haha, soon to come: 'ADS FOR DEATH AND TAXES.'

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You've always had to pay for TP in China. Free toilet paper in public restrooms is exceedingly rare. Same with hand soap. So honestly this is an improvement. The west got this one right I'm afraid.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Get a new bucket list. Unless that bucket it the poo-paper bucket next to poo hole in the ground.

    As to how either have money or bring your own TP.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yes you literally need to bring wipes around with you. Things are slowly changing but for a long time there was no TP in any bathroom stall outside of fancy hotels and maybe high end restaurants.

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