NINTENDO! SUE THE DHS AND ICE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR BUDGET AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

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[–] 233 points 1 year ago (17 children)

While it would be funny. Nintendo won't do it. They wanna be on friendly terms with orange boy so govco keeps helping them slap down ROM sites and prosecuting emulation enjoyers.

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  • [–] [S] 129 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    This type of content by the DHS could literally damage Nintendo's brand, and all of us are painfully aware at how strongly Nintendo protects their brand. I'm fairly sure they WOULD throw the weight of all their lawyers against the administration for even daring to associate human rights violations with them.

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  • [–] 208 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    The trick is to reply to posts about it saying something like “I can’t believe Nintendo are supporting the actions of ICE. I refuse to let my kids anywhere near Nintendo products!”

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Alternatively: "Using Nintendo music is fine. They didn't go against ICE over it, so they obviously don't care about it"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Exactly this. If I recall, there's a principle in at least some IP* law suggesting that each time you don't defend your absolute ownership of the IP, you are making it easier for others legally get away with infringing in future.

    I know just enough to imagine this could wildly differ between patent, trademark, copyright, and whatever other realms there are in IP.

    *Intellectual Property, for anyone unfamiliar with or not quite placing the acronym.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The trick is for it to obviously cost them more to not act.

    Good luck with that, hasn't worked so far.

    Not that you shouldn't boycott the shit out of Nintendo if you want to, just don't hold your breath while waiting for them to do something that isn't profit motivated.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Duh, just get enough people on Twitter to say they'll cancel their Nintendo Online subscriptions and sell their Switches if they refuse to act and they'll do it in a dime.

    Also, people literally forced Disney's hand by cancelling all of their subscriptions. Bullying corporations is extremely easy now that we have access to their social media.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Also, people literally forced Disney’s hand by cancelling all of their subscriptions. Bullying corporations is extremely easy now that we have access to their social media.

    They did, but the difference there is that disney already took a position and realised they'd fucked up directly (fiscally, disney absolutely does not give a fuck about morality or ethics ) and then had to backtrack.

    Nintendo haven't (actively) taken a position yet, if they do then they'd have to face the backlash of whichever way that went in the court of public opinion.

    by not taking a position they only get the backlash from the passive "support" of a position.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'd say good luck getting sintendo fans to do this, but I'm a delusional optimist.

    On one hand, I hope it works and on the other I wouldn't be surprised if the biggest bootlickers would go around mass reporting and doxxing anybody who does this.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Sintendo. That couldn't be a typo. I like that.

    Similarly, I have zero hope Big N nintendogs would ever do it too. They're okay with N just destroying competition while they keep producing slop with Pokémon. They have a whole nation that still supports them even if the rest of the world boycotts N.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That is a rare case. If people actually cared and kept their word most non-maga owned news outlets would be out of business. Yet, people still watch, read and subscribe to those outlets despite them constantly posting about how crappy those orgs are. People are creatures of comfort. I imagine most that cancelled their subscriptions turned them right back on once they heard Kimmel was no longer suspended. Most major retailers and companies that dropped their DEI policies saw little to no loss.

    Companies respond to big money, if enough people turned away from those companies they’d behave very differently

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I wonder if there is a legit way to get some betting company to cover this, because i'd lay good money on Nintendo taking the shittiest route possible (well, the second in this case, the shittiest would be to actively endorse it ).

    Because money.

    They aren't quite as bad as Disney so far, but I suspect that's only becayse they haven't been given the chance yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It could, but fighting over it definitely will.

    Even without any reprisal from the administration; the hypothetical lawsuit would be a very public affair. Nintendo would be inserting itself directly into the fight over US immigration law; and approximately no one in the US would see it as them defending their trademark rights. The anti-imigrant crowd would see it as a direct attack on Trump's deportation efforts. The anti masked-officer-shoving-people-into-an-unmarked-van-and-sending-them-to-a-venezualan-contrantion-camp would also see it that way.

    In contrast, if they do nothing, no one is going to look at that tweet and think that Nintendo was actually involved or approved of it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    True, but it's fun to joke about. I'd even go as far as to say foreign corporations have less of a moral obligation to stick it to this fascist regime than American companies do. Getting our shit together is our responsibility.

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  • [–] 104 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If Nintendo sued them, I'd actually be willing to buy a Switch2, just on principle.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The government is literally, and in an official capacity, posting edgy alt right teen discord videos. If I were 15 and a piece of shit again, I’d find this funny.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you went back two decades and told them the US government would be posting edgy videos and memes on their official Twitter accounts, they'd think you grew a third head.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Man, some people really always have a rosy propaganda filled picture of US history. Twitter didn't exists 2 decades ago but they were still propagandizing cringe through TV and news media.

    Do you think uncle sam was less cringeworthy? Getting riled up to kill brown people abroad was not cringe at all.

    Yankistanis will always have their head up theirs. SAD

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Twitter didn’t exists 2 decades ago but they were still propagandizing cringe through TV and news media.

    20 years, 17 years, there's not that much difference.

    A decade ago would have been the first Trump Presidency, which wouldn't make for that different of a comparison point.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago

    Oh I would be so happy if they manage to piss off Disney and Nintendo in the same week

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    From a legal perspective, this is copyright infringement.

    From a PR perspective, if Nintendo did nothing, they are siding with this type of use and with those who used it in such a fashion. This may be good or bad, depending on how Nintendo actually sides. If they did something about it, they may he making enemies with the court systems, but they may be making friends with them, depending on how the court system sides.

    Basically, they have precedence to sue, but whether or not they do, and what the outcome would be, is anybody's guess. But if this goes live, I would appreciate a heads up, because popcorn takes a few minutes to prepare.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This is brand tarnishment pretty clearly on the trademark side, too. If not for the apparent lasso the admin has around executives' nuts with their green cards (according to the former CLO in an article), this would represent an immense amount of liability on DHS' part. I still wonder if they might nevertheless press forward with litigation just to tamp down on the brand damage tbh

    ETA: also, the potential recoverable damages are actually theoretically immense in a case like this, between statutory damages per copyright infringement and loss of sales to brand tarnishment. Very low chance, asymptotic to 0 percent likelihood, but it would be immensely satisfying if this is what zeros out ICE incredible funding bump.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    .gov sites have lost the sense of taste

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hell, they've lost all sense of legitimacy and respect. Turned into your grandfather's thinly veiled racist social media posts.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My grandfather was a very based antifascist and would never post this type of shit (he also wasn't particularly great with modern tech, he had an old Nokia phone, so posting it would be quite a challenge). I miss him a lot.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    My grandpa taught me racist terms in front of my mom, for fun. Because "that's what they were called when he was a kid."

    Other than that, he was pretty hands off as a grandparent.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    I'm outraged that Nintendo has a contract with ICE to produce pokeballs for catching suspected illegal immigrants.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Nintendo has a chance to be the best, like no one ever was...

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    Nintendo should do to Kristi Noem what they (ALLEGEDLY) did to Gunpei Yokoi.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trump prob wants to take over FED bcs getting sued by Nintendo whilst not in possession of a money-printer is not recommended.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Nintendo only targets weak prey, like customers, fans, and smaller competitors. I would be shocked if they even issued a statement, let alone action.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lol I can't believe this is real

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The video in question for those who haven't seen it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VI5tZoBZ0s

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I hate to break this to you, but Nintendo aren't your friends and will happily lick ICE's boots clean.

    EDIT: I will happily admit I was wrong about this. Good for you Nintendo.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It doesn't matter, Nintendo cares about their brand more than their own lives and if enough people said "I can't believe Nintendo is supporting human rights violations!" they would bury ICE under a lawsuit. We're talking about Nintendo here, the company who literally makes most of its money from suing people. Them just waving and smiling at ICE literally using their IP for nefarious purposes is so OOC it's actually insane anyone would even consider it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Unless that slogan is trademarked (and even then)... dunno... ask Legal Eagle.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The animation video clips sure are copyrighted. Ask Ketchum is Nintendo's intellectual property. I've been in fangame spaces for years. The motto is - when the articles come out; the uploads go down.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Will the US courts side with the US government on the fair use of it?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In what way is this fair use, though?

    Regardless of the other criteria of fair use (which the DHS likely doesn't meet), see factor 4:

    the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

    This is immensely harming Nintendo et. al's IP.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Remember when conservatives thought pokemon were devil creatures?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    They have the ability but they won't because they spent the past 6 months bootlicking the current government over Trump's insane tariff nuke policies, just like every other company has.

    Kia literally just got raided by ICE and they announced they were continuing to invest in the US not even a week later.

    Most they'd be willing to do would be to ask Japan's ambassador local liaison to ask DHS to remove the video, which the ambassador liason or foreign diplomat himself may even refuse to do under fear of retaliation or breakdown in ongoing negotiations.

    Nintendo will sacrifice its brand image all day if it means staying in the US market and not becoming the target of Trump's next company assassination in some convoluted political stunt.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago

    The trick would try to make it more expensive for Nintendo to not act than otherwise. People on Twitter are already trying to ragebait Nintendo by claiming they'll cancel their Nintendo Online subscriptions and sell their Switches if they don't do anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    If they did, I would save up for switch 2. And if Metroid prime 4 is released for the og switch, I would never buy one.

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