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[–] 67 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Just in case anyone was wondering why we don't do that.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Now imagine hundreds of them populating the skies over a densely populated city, just to carry a few hundred rich people around.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    When you say it like that, it sounds better in some ways and worse in others.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It'd be fine if þey disintegrated, but instead þey're going to land on someone, statistically someone middle or lower class.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You need a fully automated and certified air traffic control first. That's only been discussed for a free decades now so any time now it'll arrive. Nah, nobody wants to put in any funding or take on the liability.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It’s like saying we need traffic police and highways before we can have cars.

    These things exist now, so we’re going to need to address their use or ban them and have our country fall behind in technology and manufacturing. Other countries are making them, if we’re not building similar industries then we’re losing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You can't do a large rollout of these things within the current regulations. They're simply not made to accomodate all that traffic. Creating the regulations and systems around it will take a long time so best to start early. Or you'll have to copy everything from a country that's ahead later on.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Couldn't people say the same shit when regular cars were new and there was an accident?

    "That's why you'll never see thousands of them going down a highway at 80 miles an hour." -1920s idiot who needs to get their crystal ball checked.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sure, a person might have said that. They'd have been right about the danger but wrong about our risk tolerance. It's hard enough to keep people from becoming water balloons in a simple collision on the ground (though things have definitely improved in that regard over the past century). It's also a much bigger problem to run out of fuel or have an engine failure in midair than on the ground in the vast majority of situations.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Not the air show. Just a rehearsal. One vehicle went up into flames. No deaths, one seriously injured.

    Saved you a click.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Eh, not exactly. I'm curious as to what sort of a contraption it is.

    Here. Saved the third guy a click.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So they're like... low-altitude helicopters?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's always been the idea behind flying cars.

    The ones that turn into planes are just planes that can be driven around a little easier than a normal plane.

    If you want flying cars to work in a real city, they need VTOL capabilities.

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  • There was actually a "flying car" certified in like the 1950's, they only ever made like six of them though. It was a car that you could snap wings, a tail and a propeller to and it would fly. There's one in the EAA museum.

    The most practical "flying car" I've ever seen was a dune buggy that also functioned as a powered parachute. Designed to be an offroad vehicle that, if the terrain is truly impassible, it can fly over it. in VERY good weather, at about 40 mph. And you need something of a clearing to take off in but not as much as a plane would.

    Now people are trying to make hexacopters a thing, without really describing to my satisfaction why they're better than an actual helicopter. They're not quieter, they're no more efficient, they're certainly not safer.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And thus the reason we don't have flying cars. That was two. Imagine the flaming hell that would be raining down if we had commute traffic numbers in the sky.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    We don't have "flying cars" because "flying cars" is what we call aircraft whose use case isn't practical or safe.

    You can go spend $100 grand on a light sport airplane and get a pilot's license in a couple months right now. You'll almost certainly never use it for actual practical travel.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I know a guy that's a pilot and while 90% of his flying is leisure, he'll sometimes fly down to France for his vacations etc in one. Doesn't own them though, has to pay rentals.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We don't have flying cars because technology has not progressed enough to make it economically viable for the masses.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We don't have flying cars because people are fucking dumb, and because the viable options are loud as hell.

    We absolutely have the technology, and if there were a drive to make it affordable there would be more significant research into doing so.

    To do a flying car, you need to simulate friction in the air, with significant enough force to prevent colision, while also maintaining low enough noise pollution to be acceptable to the average citizens. This second part is why we don't have Personal helicopters, despite aircraft being relatively affordable (in my cursory search I found two Helicopters less than 200K, one barely more than 100k, if there were significant drive to make them mainstream for the public they'd presumably be much cheaper, benefitting from economies of scale.)

    Additionally, how do we as a society handle ATC for flying cars? Emergency stops? Impromptu repairs? Birds in the props‽

    I'm not trying to naysay the retrofuturistic image we all want for the world. I am saying it probably shouldn't include flying cars. Especially if they're just Personal quadcopters.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    This sounds like the person raving against personal computers in the 50's, how "no-one will ever need or want one."

    And here I am sitting on the shitter with one that fits in my pocket.

    Imagine trying to explain to someone just 40 years ago that I now have light bulbs which can sense motion in addition to being voice-controlled and full RGB. 80's interior designers would go bonkers for these.

    I don't think these will replace normal traffic anytime soon but niche rescue vehicles or smth, perhaps. Also maybe we're just at the awkward point between quadcopters and Star Wars style jets? The jets are just so much more aesthetic.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    People can't even handle a zip merge, da fuck we need flying cars for, lmao, another technobro invention that only thinks about the individual and not the wider effect on society

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    The sky is huge. In theory you should be able to avoid most crashes just by separation rules which can be automated. I didn’t make this up, it’s literally a thing that exists called Big Sky Theory.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The cars are autonomous, we need them because people can’t even manage a zip merge.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Know what can be automated a lot easier than cars or planes, and can carry orders of magnitude more people with much less fuel usage? Fucking trains.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So the flying vehicles that apparently crashed into each other of their own accord are safer than cars? Really?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    “Jet” is a bullshit term. They are aircraft and must be treated as such.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Jet is a form of propulsion shortened to describe an aircraft. Jet aircraft, prop aircraft, etc. It is not a “bullshit” term.

    Yes, these “cars” are aircraft.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Is that even a car? It just looks like a massive drone.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cars travel on the ground. These are indeed massive drones with the capacity to lift humans. The media won't give up "The Jetsons" flying car term (regardless of how impractical and unsafe the concept of layman operating in 3D space is). These are just electric, multi-rotor aircraft. My rant is over.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't know about your definition. The term comes from a two-wheeled chariot it seems (though the etymology of that seems to be a word meaning "to run"). It's been used from everything from chariots, to train cars, to street cars, to automobiles. They all share two things in common. They're an enclosed container meant to carry things, and they've got wheels.

    I don't think the wheel thing is fundamental to the definition anymore. Anything traveling on the ground is going to have wheels. The "flying" part let's you know how it travels, the car part informs you about the utility. I think it's perfectly clear what it means. What else should we call it that'd be more clear?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not flying cars. Didn’t even have wheels. Just hexacopters

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Damn, traffic was that bad huh?

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  • even in the future nothing works

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    We need this on every military parade.

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    The chinese quality .ml always talks about

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