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[–] 95 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Government is not answer, God is.

Turn your full faith and trust to our Almighty God and our Savior Jesus.

Tighten your circle around your family and protect them at all times.

They really just can't comprehend that they're violent far right religious extremists...

Can they?

Like, if you translated what Christian Republicans and the Taliban wanted into a neutral 3rd language, I really don't think people would be able to tell which is which.

These dumbfucks don't even realize "God" and "Allah" are literally the same fucking dirty and they agree on 99.9999%.

It's like when one far right extremists shoots another far right extremist in the neck because there's 2-3 details they disagree on.

If anyone isn't exactly the same, they're "them" and an enemy.

If we did actually split the country, their side would just keep picking new groups to run out of their territory until there's no one left on their side.

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "it's not safe for anyone"...... Because you're actively making it that way, Margarine Thermometer Greed. Jfc conservatives are so fucking stupid and disingenuous. Repeated school shootings aren't a major issue, but as soon as the bullets start landing on them, the pearls get clutched. It's so transparent and pathetic.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Oh, suddenly it's not safe for everyone when one of their own gets killed...

    It's not safe partly because this treasonous little troll hasn't kept her mouth shut for the past dacade.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    I'm glad she doesn't feel safe anymore

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, looks like Putin's 4D chess worked even better than he could have anticipated. The US want to dissolve themselves now. Crazy how the world changed in just 10 years.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It’s not at all crazy- it’s been happening for two generations in slow motion with warning signs along the way. Literally everyone watching has been telling you you have been on this exact path for about 30 years.

    You responded with “shut up, you’re America’s hat,” renamed french fries, and gradually got shittier from there.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That always works in horror movies to boost safety: let's split up!

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago
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    Yeah... because of you...

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sounds like a scam.

    Anyway, I don't think we should tolerate red states letting kids grow up hungry or get bullied to death.

    That's what federation was for.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    NGL, everyone here who is ready to throw the browns, gays, and neurospicies, and 70% bottom earning sapiens from half of u.s. states under the bus instead of slaying the gerrymander that's choking everyone to death...?

    Idk. Sounds kind of like "If I sacrifice the other family to the face eating jaguar the face eating jaguar won't eat my face and my family next month."

    Sounds too familiar. We all know how that goes.

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  • [+] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    In Republican's fever dream scenario, they'd consider splitting the nation up to be marooning 200 million people at gunpoint stranded to die standing room only on a military embargoed Puerto Rico. They'd call that perfectly fair and not mass murder.

    Get your logic out of here as to why that isn't possible.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    You know, if you guys stop being so goddamned violent, everyone would be very safe.

    JFC, this isn't rocket science.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Canada calls dibs on the west coast!

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Lol sure

    As a show of good faith, call back ICE from all the blue states and never send them back

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Split up the USA… who would benefit from that most? Ah yes Russia and China. As if any more proof that the US government are assets.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Regardless of what would benefit anyone, a (supposedly) democratic country cannot continue having such a massive divide between its government and its citizens. Something has to give.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As much as many of us would welcome it, the reality is that the new MAGA country would declare war on us immediately.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    In that the two biggest calls for a split are from Elon and this hag, I'm going to say it's not in our best interests and work against it.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I kind of agree honestly. We dont have the kind of leadership that brings people together. We could have, but we dont. Until we have more Bernie Sanders types (aka, responsible adults who consider everyone a stakeholder) there is no hope for unity.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    No way the red state faction stays peaceful, as soon as they fuck something up they'll deflect blame on to the blue state faction and start doing airstrikes on us to distract

    e; Also, this red state faction could never ever ever be allowed to have a nuclear arsenal or we would all be very fucked, so that's another big hurdle to any kind of breakup plan

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As soon as they realize all the money went with the blue states they'll start invading.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Exactly. The biggest reason the United States is a wealthy place with the ability to pay for a good social safety net* isn't because we have the best system of government or regulations or people or any of that nonsense politicians and pundits will say, it's because we never had WWI and II play out across our territory and we haven't had to waste a bunch of money protecting ourselves from Canada or Mexico.

    Fuck a lot of what my country has done throughout history, but it's got a great foundation for building something that doesn't suck.

    *Of course it's definitely not doing this currently, but there's potential here

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  • Exceptionalists don't want to admit it, but that's only half the story.

    The other parts are a large population, room to build new factories at will, and being the largest producer of oil in the world from the moment it became the most important resource in the world.

    America has benefited from a century and a half long gold rush but the thing is it's running out.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Yes, but blue states also physically house or contain a massive amount of military hardware and bases.

    For example, broadly speaking, there are not too many major naval bases in red states, there are not too many major army bases in blue states.

    Where are which air wings, at the moment?

    Which units and commanders pick which sides?

    Who gets which nukes?

    ... Who knows?

    We would be far from the first country going through a civil war or balkanization or coup or revolution or even the first time in our own history where things like this would come into play.

    Also, it probably would be less about money, per se, as to where would be potentially invaded... as it would be... water, areas with any kind of major manufacturing hubs, extractable natural resources, arable land, large power plants, etc.

    It is also highly unlikely that there would be a clean break along state boundaries... lines would almost certainly be redrawn, in one way or another.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They wouldn't be able to uphold the industrial capacity without blue states. At least Russia has oil and Siberian resources. The fuck would they have? Texas is barely holding together and oil extraction may not be maintained on a large enough scale and Alaska is weird and would probably join the blue states.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The fuck would they have?

    Lots of guns and zero humility or acceptance of their own mistakes. Also, Florida sinking into the ocean probably isn't going to make anyone in that territory more well behaved.

    Also also - it wouldn't be fair to the rest of the world to let this red state country come into existence, because when they aren't attacking us they'd probably be flinging shit at places like Mexico and Cuba. Also, you know their environmental policies would be a fucking disaster that the global climate really can't afford.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As neat as it sounds, the logistics would be a nightmare. Remember, Republicans don't follow the rules, so encouraging Democrats to leave the south is easier than having Republicans leave the west coast for example. They want things to affect us, not them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think the nightmare is the point. It's easy to do a lot of stabing and stealing in the middle of Changing Literaly Everything. Why don't we make ourselves vulnerable by putting everything in transition and see how much can get embezzled in a year.

    DOGE mercs already walked out with any data they could get. Weird mozilla didn't e-mail me about the security breach./jk

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    The USA is currently united in the same way the DPRK is democratic, and Nazi’s are socialist.

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    MTG: Here's a thing Putin wants and coincidentally I want it too.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Anyone under the delusion that splitting a country can be peaceful should research any split since the idea of nationalism took hold. India and Pakistan are still the odds on favorite to kill us all with a nuclear winter.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    This reminds me of the spike in cellular biophoton emissions during mitosis.

    Biophoton emissions, basically a faint glow of light emitted by living cells due to metabolic processes, increase sharply at the moment a cell replicates into two cells. It appears as a flash if observing these emissions.

    There is a lot to learn about our ideal society by observing our biological processes. The human body is a good example of a functioning mass-scale social substrate. The representative sample that guides the body is billions of neurons. Considering a human body has around 37 trillion cells, and roughly 170 billion brain cells (86 billion neurons + 85 billion non-neural brain cells), that gives us around a 200:1 representative sample. For every 200 cells, there is 1 representative.

    Fascinating, isn't it? Dunbar's number states humans can only keep track of a limited number of relationships. That number is a cognitive limit of around 150 stable relationships that we can keep track of. The limit's range has been stretched to 100 - 250 stable relationships.

    In other words...the ratio of brain cells to other cells is nearly the same as Dunbar's number. It is reasonable to conclude, then, for a functioning society (because human bodies are far more functional than our planetary society), we need to have a ratio limit on representation. That limit is 200:1. For every 200 people, we need 1 representative.

    For the US, for example, with 347 million people, a stable government would need 1.7 million representatives. Sounds crazy, doesn't it, compared to the ass backwards mechanism at play now? But think about it for a bit, and you will find why it is so stable.

    That is too many people for an elite to control. It is too many to be corrupted. It adds redundancy. It adds direct accountability, each rep would have a personal relationship with their people, because it is within the Dunbar limit of what they can keep track of.

    Something to think about.

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I’m not aware of any major strife between Czechia and Slovakia

    Czechoslovakia was a combination of two historically distinct ethnic groups, so there was relatively little "sorting" during the partisan in the wake of the USSR's collapse.

    Compared to the break up of Yugoslavia or the "Two State Solution" in Israel, it was utopian. But that's a hold over of the pre-WWs ethnic make up of these regions. You don't have anything like this in the much more internally diverse and mixed populations of the US.

    Furthermore, over the last five years, the high rate of undocumented immigration and smuggling has lead to Czechnia tightening its border. We may see a rise in ethnic nationalism create friction in the future.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    To add to the other response the leaders of both nationalities were veterans of the Prague Spring. They had no appetite for more violence. Could you truly say the same of the US?

    Congratulations on finding a split I missed though.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You never think she can top her own craziness, but she always find a way.

    Shame on me for always underestimating her.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Except this particular idea isn't quite as crazy as her other ideas. It's really gotten to the point that the Red States and the Blue States lack a common purpose or any reason to be united. A gentle split into two countries, one founded on the principles of The Enlightenment and another with the laws and mores of Bronze Age herders- e. g. JesusLand, makes sense to me. As long as the latter doesn't have nuclear weapons.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago*

    I agree. I don't care what her reasoning is.

    A Pacific States of America would be able to effectively defend itself and would be one of the largest economies in the world. It would be able to make progress on climate change and would have better corporate and banking governance. It would be more accountable to its citizens. It could feed its own citizens through agriculture.

    Let the Northeast split off as well. Form a mutual defense pact with the Pacific States. Ban propagandist media like Fox News in those countries and leave the citizens of the remaining so-called United States to let themselves be manipulated into poverty and serfdom.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Agree, lets all stick the politicians and billionaires on an island in the pacific. Then America will be safe again.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    For once, I agree with her. Please let us leave.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    only downside is throwing all the minorities in red states under the bus.

    if that happens, I hope they get to flee to safety

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I see this on signs outside sometimes. I always wonder where the fuck they think the line will be though... The people who believe this shit generally live in the middle of nowhere and all the cities are deep blue so there isn't a red state/blue state divide, it's basically the network city state thing the yarvinists want but even that makes no sense because there aren't really any red cities to form around

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I just don't understand how she sees this happening. We get the cities and they get the farms? She's such an idiot.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It starts with her then gradually others "decide" (as if they don't already have this all planned the fuck out) to join her. Eventually other states kind of trickle away and Congress and just kind of agrees to dissolve the union.

    Red states leave to form "super states"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union

    Then this is just a guess but the combined National Guard of the new super states probably eventually just invade blue states regardless of if they try to hold out as part of the union.

    Bc it seems like they've been training for this for a while. Blue cities in Red states being used to test authoritarian take over

    Mississippi National Guard readies for disaster response drill

    “Vigilant Guard 2025,” will take place May 12-18. It will give participants the opportunity to activate and employ their response plans to improve mission command, relationships, and interoperability among federal, state, and local agencies.

    Guardsmen from Mississippi, along with those from Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming, the ability to command a statewide response to a major disaster in coordination with the Mississippi and Tennessee Emergency Management Agencies

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    We get the healthcare, they got the food. We got the jobs, they got the ... food. We got the infrastructure, they got... hey guys you need to diversify here, we don't do trading imbalances and you're going to need MRIs

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Me and the Union guys can renovate that office building into apartments, with a hydroponics farm in the basement, space for a doctor's office, maybe a makerspace and a few resident-centric server racks.

    They've got... Dustbowls incoming and ammo stockpikes that may or may not wither during one hunting season or another.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Can't trade food for proper education or healthcare if everyone with a brain refuses to set foot in your god forsaken territory

    Their large scale public infrastructure would break down within months unless they figure out that they need taxes to raise revenue to accomplish anything.

    Jobs will inevitably pay more in more left leaning areas so there will be no work besides picking vegetables for $7/hr

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    People in economically productive cities: "does this mean we can do a gun control?"

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And stop sending our tax revenue to unappreciative red states who just take take take, and then whine about it while offering nothing of value.

    If the US balkanized along party lines, it wouldn't even be months before they revert to a scavenger society carrying out raids on border towns, and begging bleeding hearts in blue cities for charity.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Begging? You mean come take whatever?

    RedNation likes an excuse to shoot and loot. Divorce is just an othering tactic so Fascists can come 'forecefully reorganize' democratic neighbors.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well yeah, that's what I said. Raids.

    The beggars would be the very small contingent of Republicans who haven't completely given into the violence.

    Ah who am I kidding

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yourself, mostly, but let's not lie in front of the youngs.

    I appreciate the beneficent frame of mind it comes from.

    I wish this cookie I'm offering you were actual, but is merely figurative.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Oh fuck of course! I knew this shit was coming. This is exactly what happened in Russia.

    Not a surprise bc the heritage foundation was behind that shit too

    1989: A Republican in Moscow

    1991: Russia House, Trading in Its Name

    Paul Weyrich was the co founder of Heritage. One minute he was in Moscow teaching dissidents about holding elections and sneaking in computers and fax machines.

    The next the Soviet Union had collapsed and the Heritage Foundation had helped create the first of its kind go between for U.S. and Russia business as Russia embraced "capitalism."

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Heritage Foundation needs to be disbanded and treated like the terrorist organisation it is.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah but it's not just Heritage. The offshoots that sprang from Heritage are like the entirety of the current Republican party.

    Like that guy Paul Weyrich died in his 50s, but he helped create so much shit over his relatively short career. He also founded the Free Congress Foundation and the Council for National Policy, which is like the most shadowy organization of right wing extremists and business men. Somebody wrote a book about it a few years ago, Shadow Network

    This isn't even his complete list of political affiliations

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Weaponized stupidly.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Split into the conservative leecher states and the progressive earner states? How will they finance their new conservative utopia? Hate only feeds you that long...

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