If what you are doing is legal, legitimate and moral ... then you never have to mask your name or hide your face

Disregard this, hide your face at protests people

You'll probably just get shot

Herein lies the problem.

There is no due process.

There is no law except what they choose to enforce.

You will not see a judge.

You will never be convicted by a jury of your peers.

You will just die, or be sent off to a place where you will likely wish that you were dead.

This is not law enforcement. This is not legal. They will not follow their own laws, why would you? If they come for you, fight like your life depends on it, because it probably does.

... So anyway, I started blasting ...

If their intent is to kill you, phoning 911 is a waste of time. You are now alone. Fight for your life. Take down as many nazis as you can.

That's not what the post says. It says call 911 if they refuse. It gives no guidance on what to do if they respond.

You never get to court, that's the point the previous comment is making.

As an individual trying to stand up to them you're somewhere between being either completely ineffectual or making the situation worse. Having the law on your side doesn't matter because it's impossible for you to summon the enforcement of it fast enough to help you, assuming they even would.

A local community response that will mobilize and appear in your neighborhood in seconds is basically the only way to respond quickly with enough force for them to care about.

You're probably right, but you'd have to make it to court. Not everyone does..

You're still thinking as if due process and legality matters

If ICE is coming for you, then you're not seeing court. If you're some interfering bystander then maybe you will. But then you're plan to lie to the judge and say you didn't know? The judge will see through you're bullshit immediately.

Like that could only work if you actually were ignorant and even then you'd have a long up hill legal battle to establish the precedent that its sometimes OK to shoot law enforcement. IANAL but I think thats a liberty the state has never been conceded.

court

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You know the cops watch the news too and will immediately guess what your up to. At best this is just trolling the cops. At worst you're calling back up for ICE.

If you want to be as annoying as possible out of spite or martyrdom I can respect that. But that's what it'd be.

You don't have to talk to a masked gunman or engage with them in any way to call 911.

If you see masked people with guns, call 911. If they're authorized to be there, there's no harm in calling it in.

I think it's just wearing clothes not a uniform though and not stating you're an agent, so I don't think it's impersonation.

However I think it's dangerous to do this. We're better off when we can identify the enemy.

Don't put ICE plastered on the front just dress up in black with a helmet and face mask and vest. When there's 1000 it's close enough

Should remind them of that.

And yet there are no laws against expersonating.

That's not how it works. If local cops show up, they only assist ICE. The NYPD in this photo were Brad Lander's (Elected official being kidnapped) entourage. When ICE turned on him, they held the press back from ICE and then the senior member of their group cooperated with ICE and left the building alongside them and Lander. No asking for ID, no asking for a warrant from them, zero resistance, only assistance.

If the Dems want to actually exercise their right to resist a kidnapping they should be showing up with private security, or exercising their own 2A rights (Something that pretty much only politicians and friends of cops can do in NYC because NYPD gets constitutionally-questionable veto power on gun permits). But I'm guessing that is exactly what the Trump regime is waiting for. They will send in the national guard once that happens.