Charlie Kirk's murder is a shock to me and prior to that I really have not thought about him for months (he apparently shared a stage with Hassan piker), of course the south Park parody.

I have ran into a few of Kirk's supporters and apparently his legacy is his family and his apparently endless college debates that get rephrased as "debated an entire generation" and governors.

To me, it seems like Kirk was just a content creator.

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[–] 53 points 1 year ago

Hate, division, degradation of the debate process, normalizing disinformation, encouraging fascism...

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago

    A bigot and fascist

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    Kirk was a state terrorist who called for people to get shot because it protects gun nutjobs.

    He also said empathy is for the weak. I'm returning the favour by not having empathy for him but having it for others.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Literally just a fucking nazi. Good riddance.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Telling women they are only here to be submissive breeding sows

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Can I get a source? I'd love to have this one to share. My family simps so damn hard for him and I can't stand it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/turning-point-usa-conference-young-women-leaders-suggests-their-role-get-married-and

    Kirk said the “biblical model” for women to pursue in romantic relationships is a partner who is “a protector and a leader, and deep down, a vast majority of you agree.” And during a question and answer session on day three, Kirk told the audience to “make yourself presentable” to attract a man. His advice was to join a church, befriend the pastor’s wife, and “hold yourself to a high standard” including by waiting to have sex until marriage, which is “something that some women struggle with.”

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    He pushes that retoric on his video commentary about Taylor Swift engagement, that she should have plenty of children since she can afford it, and submit to her husband. Should be easy to find and it’s recent.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Racism, bigotry, hatred, greed, grift, sexism, fascism, and more of the same.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "I think it's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational." - Charlie Kirk

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    This. Right here. This quote. I suggest his family make his tombstone out of stainless steel so they can easily pressure wash away the marker pens of people scrawling these words across it.

    Thoughts and prayers.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    His legacy is organizing to bring white supremacist anti-lgbtqia+ rhetoric more mainstream via the Republican party. He organized to oppress people.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think, in the long run, Kirk's legacy will be his assassination and it's contribution to the season of assassination now unfolding. (The two failed Trump assassinations, the UnitedHealth assassination, and now Kirk).

    Beyond that, he was an agitator and a grifter. I have the same empathy towards him and the people around him as he had towards school shooting survivors, Palestinians, and etc. It's what he would have wanted.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Kirk was a fascist activist, propagandist, and organizer. He was as much "just a content creator" as Goebbels.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    Sophist -> nazi propagandist.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Smarmy grifter who caused irreparable and immeasurable harm

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The same as Rush Limbaugh. Nobody cares.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Tiny face guy

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Someone who got a lot of money via preaching hate

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’m not American, and the only exposure to him that I had the misfortune of coming across was him saying that he’s anti-abortion, even for child victims of sexual abuse. It’s horrible enough to force a grown woman to carry a pregnancy against her will, but a little girl that’s been raped?? That’s indescribably heinous.

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  • The funny thing is, if her family is wealthy, they’ll just take care of it. It’s poor and brown/Black girls they want to keep barefoot and pregnant. It’s not about oppressing girls — that’s just a side effect they’re glad for. It’s about maintaining the class divide.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    His legacy is rabid 2a support at any cost, calling empathy a fake word, extreme transphobia and racism, sympathising with Nazis, and getting Fatalitied like a Mortal Kombat character

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  • being a gender neutral toilet

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    One of the people pushing the idea that gun violence is okay, actually. So by his own logic no one should feel bad for him.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    My eternal sense of wonder. Thinking if any given picture of his has or has not been altered to make his face smaller. And the amusing conclusion that I cannot really tell.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    He won’t be in a history book; in five years nobody will talk about him.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    He lives on in my block list

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    A very strong reminder to all mid level right wing mouth pieces that they are all expendable. That they can be sent to the public to sow devision but not have the protection from the dangers they create .... or at the most extreme be martyred by their own followers and leaders to push their agenda.

    I'll never trust America to tell me the truth about any major public event like this .... this is the same country that murdered their own president for their dumb right wing agenda and got away with it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He was highly successful at making his dream a reality.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I feel like comparing a person who was just right wing to someone so disgusting and reprehensible is disingenuous and waters down have vile the Nazi regime was

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm comfortable with the comparison. If you insist on mythologizing the Nazis as a singular historical phenomenon, you will never recognize them anywhere else. Kirk professed Christianity, while mocking and condemning empathy as "new-age" and damaging. He called for the marginalization, incarceration and even murder of trans people. He was a cheerleader for the large scale paramilitary occupations of major cities. There are many examples of Kirk not simply "having conservative opinions", but being paid handsomely by billionaires to amplify and normalize these messages of hate. That you think of him as someone "who was just right wing" illustrates the success he had in bringing his evil views into mainstream discourse.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Most Nazis were "regular people" until the opportunity came for them to commit atrocities.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I did not say Charlie Kirk was just a 'regular person"

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know. You're excusing him but I'm telling you that even people you would consider to be better than Kirk ended up as Nazis when the opportunity arose.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    Ok I appreciate the idea some political act alot more moderate then there actually beliefs like, that does happen alot when politicians stray the centrist line

    I just don't think its fair to compare charlie to Himmler over the idea that Charlie could of became extremely far right wing if he gained more power

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Most Nazis were "regular people" "just right wing" until the opportunity came for them to commit atrocities.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The nazi party was far right authortarians, not just simply right wing, to say they were just right wing is disingenuous

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  • Who the fuck cares?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    His legacy will be Irony. He died of the gun violence that he blithely normalized, and since he openly disparaged and dismissed the concept of empathy, he received none.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    His only legacy is a stupid meme format where someone will point out that the guy in the meme was a fascist jackass Everytime it gets posted.

    Change my mind.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Aside from a shitload of memes? Not very much, they will find another disproportioned faced asshole to replace him and his name will be erased from history

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I think the reason why this may be something you're wondering about is because we have given podcasters a larger influence in recent years. Not to say that's bad, but it's new.

    Personally, I don't consider podcasters or YouTubers, etc., trustworthy sources of information or honest dialog. I'm not sure that's something that even exists anyway now.

    There's a much larger conversation to be had about where we spend our time and give our attention and why. The real news is boring so we turn to salacious clickbait that we often know has a bias to it. The more time we hand our emotions over to this content, then more it becomes part of our psyche. Sometimes we don't have a choice but I still know a ton of people who are entirely clueless about politics. So, some people are making choices, for better or worse.

    I see Kirk's legacy the same as Rogan's and Trump's. These people are a reflection of our times. Something is very wrong in our world today and we've spent the last twenty five years shifting, metaphorically, from CBS Evening News to The National Enquirer.

    This is the result of great freedom: a wild storm of ideas with equal opportunity to be expressed and heard. Not something that existed before the internet or having instant world wide communications in your hand or selling your information in order to maintain your attention with biased (mis/dis)information.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    IRL shitposter.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Getting assassinated is his legacy for all those who did not know who he was. I think getting assassinated will be his legacy for all those who knew who he was.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    MAGAs keep bring up his family, as if the people who they are deporting to life sentences in 3rd world torture prisons don't have families.

    His wife is a young, hot blonde, who just inherited a shitload of Nazi gold. She'll have some MAGA shill at her side soon. She'll be fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I fear it will the shooter's legacy that we will all remember the name. He may have otherwise continued his life as a weird, argumentative footnote in history. Now he will be a vessel of martyrdom that will fill itself with content poured in by those who instrumentalize his unfortunate death.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    No martyr is born without fighting for liberty for all in the world before death.

    The pig was not one of those.

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  • I fear you either misunderstand my comment or what martyrdom means. I'm no fan of the man who got shot. And for me he'll never be a martyr. But those who did like him can now hail him as such, make him a hero - for all the other people who liked him. Martyrdom is in the eye of the beholder.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Foundation to commemorate the small faces, i hear he was a big rod stewart fan

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    He may very well be the personality to cause the Epstein files be released.

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