It’s really crazy how he is being treated as if he was a high ranking military officer or an elected politician. He was just a hateful guy with a podcast.
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If Charlie Kirk gets entombed in a place of honor I'll make it my life's mission to excavate that fucker's body in the least respectful way possible.
That's a gofundme I can get behind.
Don't worry. Nazis were also given honorary graves during the second World War. Look how many of those survived after 1945. In the end nazis will lose and everything they created will be destroyed.
This is correct, and it’s legitimately insane to me that the Nazis themselves never see it.
In fact, they will completely deny it afterwards.
I recommend reading They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945 by Milton Mayer. This is my favorite quote but the whole book was eye-opening:
When I asked Herr Wedekind, the baker, why he had believed in National Socialism, he said, “Because it promised to solve the unemployment problem. And it did. But I never imagined what it would lead to. Nobody did.”
I thought I had struck pay dirt, and I said, “What do you mean, ‘what it would lead to,’ Herr Wedekind?” “War,” he said. “Nobody ever imagined it would lead to war.”
There is no guarantee that they will lose, that's the problem. Give them enough chances, they only have to win one time and that will be it. One could argue they already did, because democracy and rule of law are not in effect any longer, there is only one way this can still be stopped.
Look at the history. Shit like this always happens. They rise, then they fall. The world gets right, then gets left. It gets a mess, then it gets stable. Etc etc etc
Edit: the bad part is that it will always come at a great cost. So right now it's the question what the price will be, that we as humanity will have to pay. We can go as far as mass extinction these days. I thought we couldn't go there, as during the cold war we didn't either. But now that I know how close we came, what tiny things there were that prevented it... Right now we have a lot more radical, religious and dumb people in places of power. I don't know man.
But if it doesn't come to that, it will go back to the left but goes too far, then it will go more to the right again but people still remember so it won't go too far right, then people see it doesn't work and chose a more stable left. Then there will be a period of stability, until everything starts to happen all over again. It's our human nature.
Is there a male equivalent to "Ding, dong, the witch is dead" one could sing/sound/play in hearing range. I found the British way of dealing with Thatcher that way inspiring.
Kirk was so unpopular I'm willing to bet singles and EPs are being written as we speak
Comparing the two is insulting. She was an actual head of state and a true force of evil, this chump was a two bit podcaster, he deserves neither half flags, having a state burial, nor having any type of songs written about him.
Jesus christ, you're playing into their hands.
I don't like being a tinfoil hat guy, but I can't help wondering who this benefits the most. Sure seems like the right is capitalizing on this very quickly.
Other countries could be involved, it could just be a crazy person with a gun, it could be someone who hated his hateful messaging. We don't know.
How about we minimally figure out what actually happened before honoring a podcaster, who got killed, like he is a war hero?
It's reasonable to expect that the conservatives have expected a significant shooting of a right-wing figure was inevitable in the US, and had strategies discussed beforehand to capitalise on the occasion. No need for tinfoil hats.
No strategies even necessary, they are all on board with the fanaticism. They don't even need martyrs, they demonize the left constantly, it's like with narcissists- they accuse you of shit constantly and feverishly, and the one time you actually do happen to be guilty of something that is judgment day and proof of everything else they made up about you.
It's how witch processes go, it's how holocausts go, it's how fascism always goes.
How good a shot was it?
The guy who went for trump took a number of shots and missed (mostly). I don't know enough about guns to understand how hard it was to one shot CK from the distance he was with a rifle.
I've heard they'd at least have needed an hour of practice.
I was thinking that the other day. The GOP are talking about ramping up the violence. This will lead to martial law. This is the final step in project 2025 before destroying democracy in America.
I guess that's on-brand for this administration. His sole contribution to society was to piss people off for money by making a lot of stupid noises. It seems to be the only thing they respect.
Nothing says "cannon fodder" like this over-the-top response to his death.
I think when senator McCain, the veteran and hero, died, they insulted him.
Oof. MC Cain was a vet and a pow. Hero is a bit far. He got shot down on a mission he wasn't supposed to be on, in a plane any other pilot wouldn't have been allowed near after crashing 3 prior to that and his demand was only possible because his daddy got put in charge of Vietnam after he was captured and told the enemy his dad was in charge.
It's like one of those rare times where nepotism and ego actually worked out ok.
He saved the affordable care act with his thumbs down mavrick move. I'd say that qualifies
Okay but he was a lot more civilised than his successor...
That's not heroic that doesnt even imply he's a decent person just less shitty then the one before.
You can bend over backwards to call the guy a hero but you're going to have to chop that definition down until your cashier is a hero because they didn't steal your change.
I don't think I called him a hero?
You didn't but that also means you aren't following the conversation.
Someone please play yakety sax while this is happening
Or sad trombone
Or any other number of sonic shitposts
Carotid Artery Charlie: he lived by the shitpost; he died by the shitpost; his memory will be made fun of in shitposts.
Oh, nancy, being loud and obnoxious like kari lake isnt going to get you on TRUMPS favour.
They can use his corpse to build a fountain with the water shooting out his neck.
They lay his ass in state at the capital and somebody is going to set it on fire.
Did she spray-tan herself pink to match the dress? I can't tell if that is a natural skin tone
I don't see what's Oniony or even unexpected about this. He'll join the ranks of e.g. Huey Long.
THE NATION OWES ETERNAL DEBT TO THIS HERO OF THE REPUBLIC, THIS GUARDIAN OF THE FLAG, THIS MARTYR OF THE UNION, THIS SAINT OF THE CONSTITUTION WHO CARRIED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON HIS BLUE RED WHITE STRIPED SHOULDERS, WHOSE FACE SHALL BE ENGRAVED ON THE MOUNTAINS AND WHOSE NAME BE SUNG BY ANGELS AS HE ASCENDS THE HEAVENLY THRONE TO BE EMBRACED BY THE ONE TRUE LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS SACRIFICE WRITTEN WITH ASTRAL FIRE AND FOREVER ECHOED THROUGH THE CHAMBERS OF POWER AND ANNALS OF HISTORY AND RETOLD BY THE LIPS OF PATRIOTS FOR MILLENNIA!
He was a step below a Podcaster dude. What the fuck.
Oh no. Reaction lost a prominent mouthpiece. Big fuckin' whoop. There are plenty of annoying cunts right here on Al Gore's internet who will gleefully fill those shoes.
Like a pez dispenser. Full of insufferable assholes.
Man the pro fascism folks were waiting a long time to finally have a martyr. They tried with that Babbitt but they are really milking this one out as much as they can.
Let’s get even deeper. They want his body in the White House so Trump can use it since his body is decaying.
So they're adding "in honor" to a description of his career? What does that even accomplish?
“We need to be very clear, you are not going to get gun deaths to zero,” he said. “It will not happen. You can significantly reduce them, by having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.”



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