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[–] 97 points 1 year ago (13 children)

TBF I haven't had a sound issue after Linux mint switched to pipewire.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I haven't had a sound issue since I unplugged the speakers

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I installed Mint on an old laptop and had sound issues with external speakers. Spent 30 mins trouble shooting until I realized there was something with the port that if you fully pushed in the aux cable, it went in too much and the contacts don’t fully meet. There was a sweet spot where the cord is plugged in correctly but not pushed in too much.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I want to like pipewire but configuration is a hell scape of configuration files that bare no resemblance to any I've dealt with before, and doesn't recognise my audio interface probably so I have to just fully stop all pw services and use jack for Ardour.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fuck around with pipewire and pulseaudio and find out

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  • Certified Pulseaudio moment

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    This might be a dumb question, but why are so many people saying they have sound issues? Did I just get lucky with the pc's I have run Linux on and never have sound problems?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I think it's just old tribal knowledge that people have turned into a meme at this point, just like people thinking all versions of Linux are so arcane and obtuse, you need to be a master programmer or hacker to be able to make it run without crashing. When I was first starting out with it, around 2009, I remember having somewhat regular issues with my sound and my wifi just randomly deciding I was unworthy of either sound or wireless internet access. That was across distros when I was initially checking things out, as well as across releases of the same distro once I (mostly) settled down.

    These days, I can't remember the last time I had such problems that weren't either the result of a specific bug that was shortly fixed, or the fallout of something stupid I did myself while tinkering with something and not paying enough attention.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In the beginning there was oss, and then there was alsa. In the alsa days it was easy to get any given thing to work, but sometimes it was hard to make two separate things work at the same time.

    Pulseaudio fixed this, but it took a long time, distros didn't start adopting it until 2008 or so, and back then it wasn't all that solid.

    The meme makes no sense now that we have pipewire, but it'd have been fair between 1998 and 2009, depending on your configuration and usage case.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    to be fair it does still make sense with lower-level distros like arch. usually it is as simple as installing pipewire + wireplumber or whatever, but that sometimes doesn't work out of the box and there are also other ways to do audio

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My primary issues on Linux have been wifi and GPU drivers. Wifi is fine these days, but trying to get actual 3D rendering to work still is a major headache.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tbh? I just set up Bazzite on my PC and it was the first time i had (some) sound issues too. Mostly related to my pcie soundcard, but my Mainboard aux ports aren't working either. I think it's driver related, just to many different vendors.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    So the general missing driver thing. We do not have enough users, so companies don't make drivers and we have to hope the community makes open source ones.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    my front audio ports don't work and i have no idea if it's a hardware or software issue so i just don't bother with them

    edit: fixed it by changing front port audio mode from HD audio to ac97 in bios settings

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I had that exact problem and fixed it by changing the audio mode from hd audio to ac97 in the bios settings. Apparently linux doesnt like realteks hd audio

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    i'll try that, although im not sure what options my uefi (asrock) has so i should probably search it up.

    edit: thanks! it works, the option was under Advanced -> Onboard Devices or Onboard Configuration, something like that (though pavu control crashed a bit but maybe im just not familiar with having multiple audio devices)

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lmfao my SteamDeck's audio broke for some reason while I was messing with Lutris (because yaRrr πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ), so I had to copy-paste a random redditor's terminal commands into konsole and I honestly am not knowledged enough to know if it was malicious, but it had a few upvotes and was up for more than a week without getting taken down, so I just assume it's probably fine.

    One of these days, I'm gonna copy paste malware into the terminal lol.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I feel like the last time I installed Linux and had any issues with sound or internet or anything like that has to be at least 15 years ago

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lucky you! :)

    For me, switching to Bluetooth half the time makess the audio go crackly and stuttering, which sometimes can be fixed by switching codec, sometimes not, and then after that happens my HDMI audio is screwed up too, even after turning Bluetooth off.

    With steam games too, audio is the #1 most likely thing to be not working, or working improperly.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Good for you! I just solved a shared audio problem on a Pi 5 in the last week. If I was watching something in VLC then paused it and wanted to look at something on YouTube, I couldn't get any audio without killing VLC then later having to try to remember where I was up to.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I currently have more audio issues on my MacBook Pro than my Linux desktop. The Mac will sometimes just fail to recognize headphones plugged into the 3.5mm TRS port. NixOS desktop w/ pipewire has no audio problems whatsoever.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    God, don't remind me when I fucked up my audio on Arch because I had both pipewire and pulseaudio installed and didn't realize it for a good hour.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It's a cheap shot, but I'll allow it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Choices when trying to get reaper or ardour to work:

    • Massive latency, unusable
    • All other audio stops working
    • No audio at all
    • Have audio but now midi devices don't work
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Maybe I'm missing something obvious but how often is midi used in modern days?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Extremely frequently. Digital musical instruments generally don't output production quality sounds -- they output MIDI data that describes what note is being played, and an audio synthesizer device or software interprets it and generates the audio data.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Right. I guess I consider that a relatively niche usecase. But on second thought I suppose it's not that niche once you include hobbyist musicians and that kind of crowd.

    I wanted to make the analogy of every tech YouTuber reviewing a laptop or non-high-end PC saying "you're not going to be rendering long videos on this thing" as if that's a relatable use case. No, YouTuber, that's not something most people do on their computers! Most people probably never do it in their life, or only a handful of times ever.

    But as I said upon more thought I realize that's not the case with midi.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel like I got pretty lucky with my bitwig setup (on arch)? I selected PipeWire as the output driver and everything just works (no latency, midi is fine, other apps can still be heard). the only caveat is I have to fiddle a bit if I want the audio to be sent over screen sharing apps, which I think introduces a decent amount of latency. Maybe bitwig has invested in some tech the other DAWs don't have since it's commercial software and Linux support is one of their competitive advantages...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This may be the best meme I’ve seen in this community, made me legitimately laugh.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Virtually insane

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I'm having a terrible anxiety flashback from installing Ubuntu on a netbook back in 2010. It was like a 20 command process that required babysitting and a second computer. It felt like each thing I fixed broke two other things.

    Things are better now, thankfully.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Average PulseAudio user.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    My Lenovo go running the official steam os fails to recognize audio over HDMI if I wake it from sleep. I can switch it to Linux and have sound work but no games will detect audio until I reboot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I need to set my volume over 22% or so so that I get any sound at startup or when plugging my speakers in, then I can lower the volume again.

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