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[+] 86 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you don't want someone to ring your doorbell then why the fuck do you have one? They are usually only secured with two screws. Fuck that guy, he needs to be shot back.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If you remove the doorbell button, it leaves an unsightly hole that faces visitors. Instead, you can remove or deactivate the actual bell part inside your house.

    Then, you can put a sign on the door that says not to knock or it will wake the baby, and you may never have to interact with another human ever again.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Good news is that this idiot can no longer threaten kids (or anyone). He was kicked out of the National Weather Association after his asinine posts. He then seemingly died shortly after. I haven't found a cause of death yet.

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  • [+] 211 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 136 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    The only way to stop a bad kid from ringing doorbells is a good guy with a gun.

    That kid was no angel.

    I'm sure I missed some right-wing thought-stopping platitudes, I may be back later with more wisdom.

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  • [–] 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Maybe we shouldn't be talking about this right after it happened??!?! Give the dead child's family some time! Now is not the time for gun control arguments it's the time to come together and support the victims, especially the man who shot the child, nobody thinks of their suffering!

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But then casually post anonymous racist YouTube comments about how if he was raised better this wouldn’t have happened

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ahh yes.. time to pay the dead kid tax... we all feel safer though so its totalllly worth all the dead children, right?

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  • [–] 110 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    I used to knock doors back in the 1990s raising money for Jump Rope for Heart. Not once did I have to worry about being shot. And that was in Texas! Also in 1999 I was a door to door sales man for Orange Solve. Again never had an issue For fuck sakes my grandfather sold life insurance door to door. We used to have door sales man and not mention religious people who would go door to door. Not once did you hear stories like this.

    I blame fox news. They have made these people so fucking scared. Life was more dangerous back in the 70's-80's for a kid.

    Guess that's what they want to go back to. I hope this man gets life in prison. Goddammit I am sick tired of these fucks ruining and destroying our world. Fucking piss baby.

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  • [+] 41 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    That's scary and so fucking crazy. We can't fix these people. We need to one cut off Fox News and any right wing media, then we need to pump billions into education.

    We also need to lock all these people up in institutions until we can deprogram them.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    In Louisiana in the early 90s a Japanese foreign exchange student was shot during a Halloween party when he accidentally knocked on the wrong house in costume. When he walked away, the home owner came out with a revolver and yelled 'freeze'. He didn't understand what that meant since his English was poor and he walked towards them and was then shot. He probably also thought that he DID go to the right house and as it was Halloween it was probably a gag.

    The home owner was acquitted, but it caused an international incident.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Never heard of this. Of course I was kin the early 90's.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thanks that sucks, fucker got away with it. And his house brother killded himself in 2023. Fucking monsters still have not paid out the judgement they owe. I hope they had a rotten life after that. Living in a trailer park to good for them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    My mother told me about an incident where a ethnic Chinese man (or woman? can't remember what I heard) in the US was going through the trash looking for those bottles/cans that you can sell for money (you know those that says 5 cent / 10 cent if recycled?), so there was a kid in the house who their parents left alone at home armed with a fucking gun and he started shouting at the man to leave, but he didn't understand English, so the kid shot and killed the man, claiming to "feel threatened". The shooter being a kid means there were no charges.

    That conversation basically set the atmosphere (as in, the mental picture that I have) of what America was like. Its probably one of the reasons why I (as someone who is also ethnically Chinese) have this self-imposed restriction of never going to a republican area or any racially homogenous areas (particularly those all white suburbs / rural places)

    I never looked it up, but let me know if you found an article that matchs what I was told.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    What color is your skin, though?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I'm white but I worked with people of color knocking doors we never ran into these issues in the 1990's.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    i dunno. I have a friend who's asian, sold door to door in DFW in the 90s and regularly had guns pulled on him.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I canvassed door-to-door in Ohio in the mid-80s for a public interest org and I also never feared for my life. Although one time I had knocked on one door and was actually leaving the property when the homeowner opened his door and let his doberman out. This thing barked at me and seemed to be trying to bite me but I was able to keep my clipboard in front of his head. Anybody trying to defend themselves from a dog should try using a clipboard.

    However, I'm white. I had a friend from Sri Lanka who was working the same job and his experience was a bit different. One time he was walking down a road and heard a noise behind him, turned around and saw a car approaching him with a guy sticking out of the passenger window holding a baseball bat.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is different from just ringing doorbells. The article doesn’t say it and glosses over the fact that this kid was doing it for TikTok. The fuckin stupid ass TiKtOk ChaLLeNgE is to go up and kick the shit out the door as loud as you can, then run away after terrifying whoever is inside.

    It’s no excuse to shoot, but it’s not a simple “kid rang the doorbell”

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    i mean i've seen signs in austin, on the same lawn, that say "we don't call the police" with a picture of a gun and "ring my door and i'll shoot"

    lovely, warm neighborhood...

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So doesn't that person have any deliveries or visitors or anything? Imagine ordering a pizza and then being shocked when some anxious guy (anxious because they got tons of deliveries to make on a deadline or be fired) shows up?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I have one of those shootin' people signs on my lawn. One time, I ordered a pizza. When the pizza delivery person showed up, they were acting mighty shady. So I shot them. That bastard may have been trying to case my place. When the beautiful boys in blue showed up. I showed them my badge and all was good.

    • Some person I made up for this post
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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Ding dong ditch used to be a staple of kiddie pranks... for fuck's sake! Do none of these idiots have any real threat assessment? Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?

    It is exactly this. These are deeply violent people who are actively seeking any reason to hide behind the excuse of self defense.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    There is something ingrained in certain people I'm finding. I'm a big dude who can handle himself if need be, but I also have guns cause the state does too. Moved from a more liberal area to this purple pearl in a very red area. Had a girl over one night and heard some rustling outside the door. I put on pants and went to go check it out and she asked me why I wasn't bringing my gun. Jackie, my sister in Christ, we are outside the downtown area of a fairly safe little tourist trap. At the absolute worst it could be is a small black bear that I just scream at. But I'm not going to jail for firing a gun near downtown(although that doesn't tend to stop anyone else around here).

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    None whatsoever. They're bloodthirsty savages. Itching for any excuse to murder someone.

    I give it 2 weeks before the shooter is being interviewed on Fox. Whinging about how he's really the victim of some nebulous "woke mob" that drug him online for murdering a child.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Do none of these idiots have any real threat assessment?

    More that they've got a house full of guns, an ear full of "crime wave!!!" media, and a not insignificant amount of mental illness.

    "If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they're targeting my house for a burglary" is a thing lots of people unironically believe.

    Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?

    Definitely elements of that, too. But in the sense of feeling like they want to be the hero of a story they've heard on Talk Radio.

    A lot of these people are legit delusional.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    “If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they’re targeting my house for a burglary” is a thing lots of people unironically believe.

    God help me, I'm going to lose it with the next idiot that I hear this shit from. My parents constantly regurgitate simulacrums of that line. Somehow we've moved on foolish grans mass spamming the emails about people putting tags on your car at the gas station to follow you home... but it's 'moved on' to the insidious new middle-aged twats on facebook losing their minds about shit like kids being kidnapped from their school by secret russian/chinese/iranian/democrat black-ops teams.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    "If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they're targeting my house for a burglary" is a thing lots of people unironically believe.

    Is this really a commonly held belief? The fuck? Makes no goddamn sense whatsoever.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's less a commonly held belief and more an urban myth that gets circulated via Facebook copypasta and local news elevated crime gossip.

    Makes no goddamn sense whatsoever.

    The theory is that you ring the doorbell a number of times and if nobody answers the door then the person must not be home. It is therefore safe to do a break-in and steal all the stuff. More elaborate and sinister theories entail a burglar who is exhausting their prey with sleepless anxiety, hoping to break in an assault/rape the homeowner once they've been burned out from sleeplessly monitoring their front door night after night.

    Slap on some fluff about this being a cartel strategy or the sign of a kidnapping ring in your area or whatever other bells and whistles you want to throw on the tale. If it's a TikTok meme, they've brainwashed kids to gather information on behalf of the Chinese/Russian government. This is a prelude to an MS-13 blockwide invasion. Lizardpeople. The sky is the limit.

    Plays on mental illness like a fiddle.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?

    Too many people are kept in check by fear of getting caught by the law and will turn into savage beasts at the slightest opportunity.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Who cares? They rang the doorbell and ran

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You only know that after the fact, from outside. I assure you the homeowner absolutely did not think of that at 11PM. Get real with your "who cares" nonsense.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Someone rang my doorbell at 11pm, better shoot first and ask questions never.

    Noone could ever need help at 11pm.

    Also, are they just posted up in a chair with a rifle pointed at the door ready to fire when the doorbell goes off? Or did they open the door and identify the person running away before firing.

    The whole point of the prank is to run away before they can awnser the door.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    And so maybe you fire a shot in the air to scare anyone, if you are that insanely paranoid. Clearly he could see that someone was running AWAY from him if he hit a moving target at 11pm, and there's a neighbor wittness, so it couldn't have been pitch black in the middle of nowhere.

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I can't imagine this happening in the Netherlands... Wtf...

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    It absolutely does happen here. Like this one for example: guy chases young girl with an axe after messing with his doorbell.

    https://nos.nl/artikel/2438126-man-wordt-boos-om-belletje-trekken-en-verwondt-man-met-bijl

    Don’t mess with the wrong people. You never know what’s going to push them over the edge.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Ja, Limburg. Vandaar. ;)

    Edit: the axeguy was stopped by visitors of a local bar while pursuing the little girl. Noone got seriously injured and the unhinged moron was left in police custody.

    Now, in the US these kind of stories have a different ending. In the US this guy would've shot the girl and rampaged through that bar.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Why is this article not framed as if this was a crime? They never mentioned the shooter or his consequences. It's not illegal to ring a door bell.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Houston police department have not released the identity of the boy or the occupant of the home, but said a middle-aged man has been arrested and several weapons were later recovered from the home.

    It happened on Sunday; that's all the consequences that have happened thusfar. There will likely be a trial, but the justice system moves a lot more slowly than it would have to for there to be anything more than that yet.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The kid was shot in the back You know, cause he was running away and all.

    It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun. I cannot imagine losing your child this way. I know school and mass shootings are awful and kill many more children. The difference is the intent; on some level Americans are aware existing means we could be the victim of gun violence. We do not expect idiots to shoot at us with no intent to go on a killing spree and especially not at our children outside of schools.

    I almost don't blame parents for not wanting to let their kids play outside anymore

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago

    It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun

    Seriously, my first instinct (like any normal person's) when I hear my doorbell is to pause whatever I'm watching or playing, turn off the speakers, and slowly and silently creep towards the door to peek through the peephole and see if whoever rang without scheduling first has already gone away and I can go back to my normal life.

    What am I going to do with a gun, shoot the bastard and cause even more people to come to my door‽

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Child homicides and violent crimes are lower now than they were 40 years ago. Around 1992 was when it was the worst in the past 45 years. That's not even per capital either. Just number per year. In 1980 the population was 226 million. Now it's 340 million, so even though there's over 100 million more people, there's still less violent deaths.

    Kids are safer. It's just blasted all over the news and internet anytime something fucked up happens.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    While that's all true, I think it's a worthwhile exercise to examine if the number of people being shot for ringing a doorbell or turning around in someone's driveway has experienced a statistically significant increase over the number of instances 40 years ago*.

    It could be argued that the media (and the fascist scum running the country) blasting stories about made-up or exaggerated crime are directly responsible for any increase in insanity by chicken-shit gun-fetishists.

    * Of course, you'd also need to factor in the reality that 40 years ago, in some areas you could murder someone for ringing your doorbell, and depending on the skin tones involved it might not even be reported.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    You also have to factor in that parents these days don't let their kids go outside and do anything by themselves. My aunt won't let her 10 year old grandson walk by himself 150 ft from her son's house to hers, in broad daylight while she is at the door watching out in the safest suburb of a small city.

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