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[–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

It's already dead, but the corpse is being propped up by techno-necromancy.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The average user doesn't know or care about anything. You could prove to them beyond all doubt that every reddit post or twitter tweet causes a puppy to get punched in the head, and they'd shrug and say "but this is where the funny memes are".

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Fucking thank you

    I thought I was on crazy pills for a while, because I'd give someone evidence of like, some burgeoning authoritarian conspiracy and they'd just do the thing you mentioned

    I then swapped topics to their thermostat before realizing there's literal TV static upstairs in the squishware

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Reddit: More active and profitable than it has ever been

    Lemmy: "Reddit's days are numbered."

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Is it really? I haven’t been back in the 2 years since the API debacle. But based on how enshittified the rest of the corporate owned web is, I can’t imagine it’s a good experience

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    It's still a major warehouse for data and a central hub for social research.

    Case in point, my wife was trying to get her Italian birthright citizenship registered (because America isn't looking so hot right now). There's a sub dedicated to people pursuing the same ends, and they all swap information on which consulates are helpful, what forms you'll need, and how to otherwise navigate the byzantine Italian bureaucracy.

    Absolutely invaluable. Nothing else like it on the Internet. But yes, the website still sucks ass.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    its only "invaluable" because it existsx, if it didnt exist the information would still be on the internet elesewhere

    ppl would have simply asked and answered elsewhere

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    if it didnt exist the information would still be on the internet elesewhere

    Where, though?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are you serious? Yahoo answers, lol, quora, the thousands of other forum sites that only died because of the move to reddit, those answers would have still been somewhere because the questions would still be asked regardless of if reddit exists or not.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yahoo answers, lol, quora,

    Jesus. You're not helping your case.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    More active than ever but for how long? They are permanently hemorrhaging users by banning them for stupid stuff and fingerprinting them to hell and back so they can't make new accounts.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Who says that Reddit is more active than it ever has been? How are they measuring that?

    Statista, Semrush, and GummySearch all coorborate Reddit's self-reporting. I don't have their methodology on hand.

    And certainly Reddit corporate does not want to admit that a large percent of the posts are automated

    I mean, this is the billion dollar question. If you can find reliable ways to sift real humans from bot activity at the scale of a social media behemoth, you should just do that for a living rather than shitposting incredulity on a Reddit knock-off site.

    But by all available measures, Reddit (a website that's always been plagued with bots and spam accounts) has the most real live active users in its history today.

    Finally, Reddit used to be producing results that would show up on search engines, and now it’s not.

    Google's been fully in bed with Reddit since at least 2022. One could argue that their habit of front-paging Reddit posts was what goosed its activity of late.

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    Ah, yeah, the website that will ban you for "provoking violence" against right-wing personalities.

    And uses AI-assisted profiling for mods who can decide if a user can be banned for specific ideologies.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is it, though? I haven't been there for months and sometimes almost forget about it. I honestly just don't care anymore.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I haven't been active on Reddit for 2 years... and I miss it, a lot. Reddit is where a lot of the best and most active communities are located. It's where a lot of the experts in various fields are active. It really is the best place for contacting other like-minded people for a specific community.

    I hate that Reddit forces people to use their mobile app, or you have to pay a monthly fee to use a 3rd party app. And I really wish more people had left when they made these changes, but that didn't happen. Lemmy is growing, but as a resource it is sadly no where near as useful as Reddit.

    The average user doesn't care about any of the things that happen behind the scenes, or privacy... they just want to be where the most people are, and that's Reddit.

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    [–] 60 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    What I learned after 12 years on reddit: the admins are Nazi sympathizers, pedo protectors, and propaganda enablers.

    Looking at that place now, it's crazy that people are still putting up with the bullshit. Everyone is getting censored/banned, comments removed, threads the admins don't like (especially anti Trump/Elon or pro-Palestine) get locked almost immediately. Reddit is literally bottom of the porta potty enshittified.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I saw a few comments on the Stephen King AMA asking about his waffling support of Trump seemingly evaporate after an hour or so.

    Shit's compromised, yo.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    When did Stephen King ever support Trump? Or was that the problem with the AMA, that they asked him nonsense questions?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    When he thought it was convenient, like the rest of these rich pieces of shit.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    No really. I've only ever heard Stephen King be against Trump. Your response doesn't help.
    When did Stephen King find it convenient?

    See I'm not any closer to an actual answer.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Thanks, and wow that really surprises me! I followed him for a while on Bluesky, and there was nothing remotely like that from him in that period.
    He actually seemed quite reasonable???
    It may have been Mastodon, I don't really use either anymore, I'm not a fan of the format. Just tried to navigate the menues of Bluesky, and I couldn't even find a list of who I follow???

    Anyways that's very disappointing, thanks for showing it. I looked it up, and it checks out.
    He did try to "explain" it, but that explanations doesn't really change anything IMO.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Agree on all accounts. I got perma-banned for making fun of the conceptual average Reddit user. Now I’m here. That website is a hollow shell of what it once was.

    As predicted, their stock going public INSTANTLY made the website 10x shittier. Bots, propaganda, karma-farming, tyrant power-tripping mods/admins, misinfo, and algorithmic front page is just too much.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Looking at that place now, it's crazy that people are still putting up with the bullshit. Everyone is getting censored/banned, comments removed, threads the admins don't like (especially anti Trump/Elon or pro-Palestine) get locked almost immediately. Reddit is literally bottom of the porta potty enshittified.

    Reddit still has a lot of value for me, and I still see loads of critical comments almost every day tearing down certain topics & figures that you touch on above. If the censoring / banning were really that bad, I doubt I'd be able to read all that on a regular basis across their site.

    What I learned after 12 years on reddit: the admins are Nazi sympathizers, pedo protectors, and propaganda enablers.

    I think it's probably simpler than that: 1) they're a big social media site out to make money first and foremost, 2) they want to avoid agitating powerful figures of the day, and 3) they see their users moreso as convenient assets than individual voices who might stir up trouble for them. It's pretty much just the corporate model of the day in a late-stage capitalist reality.

    My point here is that I'd rather not buy in to and perpetuate false assumptions and false narratives. I don't want to just assume that all their admins are really as bad as you think, when in reality many of them might just be trying to give users a fair shake. Many might in fact be 'resisting.'

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I got permbanned for saying Neo-Nazis should be named and shamed. Spez edits comments that are critical of him. There was a massive ban wave a few months ago of anyone posting the names of Elon Musk's DOGE goons (who btw are supposed to be known as public officials) because Musk whined to Spez about it. Mods of r/news locked several recent topics on the atrocities committed by the Israeli government, without explanation and within an hour of being posted. On topics critical of the Trump regime, from what I can gather from replies and even quotes, the [removed] comments are tame, yet they continue with their draconian crackdown on "advocating violence"

    And on that subject, I got caught in a 3 day ban for "advocating violence" when I was joking about a mosquito smoking a cigarette and getting cancer. My appeal was denied.

    And I haven't even touched on the thousands upon thousands of bots I've seen posting, commenting, getting awarded and boosted, and even running entirely-bot populated subs while admins and powers that be throw up their hands saying "welp nothing we can do" at the same time making it easier for bots to sign up, spread propaganda, and hide their tracks. Why? Because bots are their bread and butter. They drive up engagement. They boost reddits active user count (big number = investors happy). There exists an incentive not to do anything about it.

    Reddit is biased, bots are everywhere and their mods and admins are out of control. The platform is circling the shitter, from personal experience.

    Edit: I mean don't get me wrong, reddit was a good resource for a great myriad of things from like 2005- ~2023 ish. But now, it's become so permeated with misinformation, disinformation, astroturfing, and LLM slop that it's currently unsalvageable, in my opinion.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    And I haven't even touched on the thousands upon thousands of bots I've seen posting, commenting, getting awarded and boosted, and even running entirely-bot populated subs while admins and powers that be throw up their hands saying "welp nothing we can do" at the same time making it easier for bots to sign up, spread propaganda, and hide their tracks. Why? Because bots are their bread and butter. They drive up engagement. They boost reddits active user count (big number = investors happy). There exists an incentive not to do anything about it.

    Nearly all of this applies to Lemmy too, though not quite as bad.

    Incoming speculation.

    You know the incentives of the developers. I suspect it's why certain features are lagging. I also suspect it's why Lemmy was made in the first place, in case big tech showed a political preference they didn't like.

    A lot of these problems are lessened by being open source and people able to run their own servers, but not completely solved.

    Rust is better than Python. But Piefed doesn't have most of these very important issues.

    Any anonymous social media is going to have a big chunk of the bot problem, but I trust Piefed to fight it more than Lemmy. And Reddit of course will lean into the bots.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago*

    I don't think (or assume) you're wrong across various examples of such, duderino, but you're also spinning it right there in to a laughably-giant web of conspiracy (so to speak) simply to meet the needs of your hurt feelings and self-righteousness.

    You and the downvoters are sinking in to the worst aspects of our natural state (tribalism), while completely whiffing on the better aspects of tribalism, which (to me?) is to recognise friends where you can see them, and not assume 'evil' about everyone around you.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I was looking up a review of a mediocre tech gadget the other day. It turned out it sucked, in research Google took me to Reddit and every third post about it was a glowing "I use blah every day and it works perfectly for my needs and I'm glad I bought it." The negative posts were obviously real with details about annoying quirks and the very positive posts were obviously AI/sponsored. And it reminded me why I left and how normal this has become.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    They recently permanently banned my account for saying some CEO is a lazy pos that should be fired because if i have to do his job for him then he shouldn't have it and this was a call for violence, so i write this in my appeal "you banned my account for calling someone out for exploitation? ok, i have alternatives, goodbye." exact words, they restored the comment but my account is still banned, so yeah it's definitely time for them to go.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Reddit was absolutely not an image board to begin with. To begin with there wasn't even a convenient way you could even post images! Which is why imgur was created 4 years later!. Reddit 2005, Imgur 2009.

    Reddit was originally 100% text based. Reddit was originally a general discussion forum, and the structure and dry text only format attracted mostly (to some degree) nerds and intellectuals, so the knowledge of users was generally above average, and so reddit became an amazing information hub too.

    Unfortunately more "user friendly" design and the increasing popularity and the end of Digg resulted in more noise from users that detracted more than they contributed. When I left I estimate more than 90% of users weren't even familiar with rediquette, which laid down excellent principles for how to behave. Like don't downvote because you disagree, only downvote if a post doesn't contribute to the discussion. It was almost never mentioned, and it was clearly not followed by the vast majority.

    So being a debate forum with many knowledgeable people, slowly went out the windows, so more than a decade ago it was over IMO, and the quality of posts and discussions had dropped so dramatically at that point, it was no longer worth it.

    To me all the shenanigans after that point are basically irrelevant, reddit hasn't been worth it for more than a decade IMO.
    Apart from that he has some good points, especially the centralized and AI parts.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    long past the time

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    When it dies, some of the normies who inhabited it looking for advice on DIY home repairs and cooking and TV shows will come here, take one look at the pissposting freaks they’d be trapped with and run for the safety of Facebook and its AI boomer slop with their tails between their legs.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Randomly got an email from reddit about a password reset request recently.
    Wonder if it's someone trying it out or just an automated reddit attempt at drawing me back in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Should be on the decline as spez seeks to kick progressives out of his sandbox, but in my country, more middle- and upper-class young people are going there believing they get better answers, culture, -- and memes -- than they would wading through "slummy" Facebook.

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    I was permabanned because of a powertrip from the mods of r/argentina, they cited me for racism when the topic of the post was regarding poverty as an identity. I read the answers and there were actual xenophobic and classist answers that were left unattended while I got banned. I had past clashes with the mods because I showed them that they temp banned me for no reason, I gave them actual proof of what I was writing, based on social studies from universities and data from social studies. I guess they didn't like this, I was a 17 year user for Reddit. It's a shame really, it has all gone to shit.

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    It is rather terrible, I am grieving a little bit but it is what it is, life is unjust like that a lot of times and I refuse to let power starved mods ruin my days.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It's not worth it, they will ban your other accounts. I had all 3 of mine permabanned even using a VPN. One had 110k karma, one had 30k karma, and the other had 26k karma. Reddit accounts don't matter and reddit doesn't matter. It's a search engine tool now and nothing else.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Thing is, my (now deleted) accs that I made after thr suspension only vot banned once I interscted with posts. My old acc I haven't touched anything in (even been joining my old subs and I haven't been flagged) so it's definitely related to reddit thinking I'm ban evading my og suspension. Once the 1 week is up on the 7th, I'll try using it and tell u if reddit did indeed shadowban that acc too www

    Holy shit tho, that's a LOT of karma... how old were those accs jesus christ ??? "It's a search engine tool" yet it's the only place i can have deep conversations w others within my fsndom without twitters toxicity or tiktok's dumbassery and brainrot.. lemmy's chill but I felt a lot more comfortable within reddit's fandom spaces ... (jesus christ I need to figure out how to make a sub on here)

    Edit: og account's suspension just ended, created a new acc with thr email that was linked to that one on my phone, I upvoted some posts and I'll tell u if it's gone by the morning

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