cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31319655

‘We will be notifying your family where to collect your remains, because we will kill you, graveyard dead,’ the sheriff eerily warned Thursday

A Florida sheriff issued a stark message to protesters planning to demonstrate this weekend against increasing ICE arrests nationwide.

Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivey warned in a press conference Thursday that if any protesters “throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun,” they will be killed.

Protests against the Trump administration's ongoing immigration crackdown have been popping up across the nation after they first erupted in Los Angeles on Friday.

They are expected to continue through the weekend, in alignment with the president’s birthday parade.

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[+] 53 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago

    Sounds like premeditated murder to me.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Isn’t “dead” a little extra? I’ve never heard someone say “I’m going to kill you alive.”

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    What about only mostly dead?

    Edit: a word

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    Sounds like a scared scared sheriff that realizes the person standing in the open unable to move is an expendable collateral target by definition.

    A fireworks vendor with early stock could make a fortune.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Sounds like someone with a death wish

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    So did the Brevard County sheriff's department murder anyone today? Or beat them brutally? Or otherwise dispense unjustified violence?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    I'm not endorsing this but I have to say the title is a bit click baity. This is what he actually says.

    “If you throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains, because we will kill you, graveyard dead."

    He didnt say they were about to start shooting people for regular protests.

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  • [–] [S] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    None of those things automatically give you the right to murder someone. Due process exists for a reason.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah I don't think so either. I'm just pointing out that they omitted portions of what he said to get more clicks

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    With how cops are, it's tantamount to the same thing -- it's tacit approval for them to straight up murder protesters regardless of provocation. They can always make that shit up later and get off without consequences.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    This guy is basically waxing poetic about his hopes and dreams to violently brutalize the communities hes supposed to protect, and I guaranfuckingtee you, given the polices penchant for escalation peaceful interaction into violent hysteria, that it wont take firebombs, bricks, or anything else for them to start killing people.

    All it'll take is one hurt feefee. Which is pretty much all it ever takes for cops to start brutalizing and killing the innocent.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Do you really condone murder over free speech or minor vandalism or self defense? Do you support a police force that skips due process and goes right to murder? Do you support a police force instilling terror to “keep people in line”?Given the situation in LA, and so many more examples of protesting, do you really think they won’t be instigating or faking escalation to murder people.

    That’s not a law and order speech, that’s a “meal team 6”, “itchy trigger finger”, looking for an excuse to murder someone. In any sane society, he would have been immediately relieved of duty, and facing charges.

    And yes, any murders committed by that police force during upcoming protests should be considered premeditated, and premeditated murder not be protected by qualified immunity

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago

    Who would have thought that assaulting officers with a deadly weapon will get you dead. Who possibly could have expected this?

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    [+] 171 points 1 year ago (15 children)
  • [–] 92 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    The whole situation feels like a powder keg. The police / ICE / etc. are just pushing and pushing and eventually someone's going to get shot, people will fight back, and it'll turn into a shootout. I'm convinced that's what Trump wants, so he can use it for justification.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    They’re basically setting things up such that something will happen. It’s more or less a nationwide, institutionalized police riot. And it’s entirely by design. They are wildly overreaching and doing indefensible, clearly illegal things because they want someone to get pushed too far and respond violently, and they’ll use that (frankly pretty rational, under the circumstances) pushback as carte blanche to take the gloves off and start shooting people.

    Tangentially, I hope that that’s the point where the national guard switches sides and starts shooting at ICE.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Tangentially, I hope that that’s the point where the national guard switches sides and starts shooting at ICE.

    I feel like this is what it's really going to come down to. If the military sides with Trump and turns on the citizenry, it's going to be a massacre. If the military sides with the constitution and turns on the executive branch, they'll be quickly overthrown.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If the military lines up behind the fascists, they’ll be facing an insurgency the likes of which the world has never seen. You think Ukraine is being sneaky with their (granted, very impressive) covert ops in Russia? You ain’t seen nothing yet.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This countries infrastructure is already held together by duct tape and glue, it'll be very interesting when logistics falls apart due to constant active sabotage.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The hard dependence of the military on civilian supply chains coupled with the piss-poor maintenance of infrastructure and poor security around it would make the military sitting ducks if they sided against the citizenry.

    Then there’s the fact that we have more weapons in the hands of civilians, by orders of magnitude.

    Also, the creepy propaganda that we’ve been fed since childhood here has been about instilling pride and loyalty to our country and constitution, not some wannabe king (MAGA cult aside).

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  • So yes, but:

    The initial phase would be extremely bloody and a lot of civilians would be killed.

    But in the long run, one of the meaningful changes brought about by all that killing would be the formation of a hardcore, no-compromise mosaic of resistance organizations. And a lot of them will probably come from blue states. And a lot of those blue states have a lot of very smart people. And smart, angry people are very, very fucking effective - especially if they’re good at playing the long game.

    Or, more succinctly: I genuinely do hope the NG officers mutiny if they get orders to fire on civilians - or failing that, that the E4 mafia actually rises up and frags the compromised officers with prejudice, because that’s effectively the army rank-and-file in open rebellion.

    And, lest you be disheartened by the shitshow that recently went down at fort bragg: they had to curate those grunts. They vetted them for appearance (whiteness, and apparently also not being fat…?) and political allegiance (yes, really; yes, thats against regulations; no, it’s never happened before), so the (frankly tepid quantity of) cheering at orangeboi’s fascistic nationalism word salad shouldn’t, imo, be taken too seriously as a real barometer of the vibe in the military right now.

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  • [+] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    While I was medically disqualified from service (back injury) I grew up around the military and most of my friends and family either have served or are still active duty. If there was a military coup I would be cautiously optimistic. I would hope they would take power, calm things down, and then call for new elections.....I would hope they would do that. In reality if they did perform a successful coup, I have a feeling that the power would be addicting and starship troopers would become a documentary.

    TL;DR, either way embrace the suck cuz we is fucked.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Exactly. If we already know we outnumber them and they've already made it clear that their goal is to kill us, then why wouldn't we kill them first?

    It only takes one person that has already lost so much and one Molotov to cause massive damage.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    As soon as the cops start getting killed they will be hit with massive resignations. Most of these guys are only in it to abuse their power without consequences. If they start seeing consequences they will be out of there so fast.

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  • [–] 86 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm sure the FBI will be arresting the man for issuing death threats and premeditated mas shootings any second now.

    Any second now...

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivey warned in a press conference Thursday that if any protesters “throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun,” they will be killed.

    So Sheriff Wayne is planning on performing extra-judicial executions? Sheriff Wayne looks in the mirror and sees this:

    Except he actually looks like this:

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Look's ps'd to make him look a lot less fat, with far squarer shoulders.

    That or he's got the most wack ass frame ever.

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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The US needs to be rebooted at this point, it's not working properly for the citizens anymore.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This cop needs fired immediately.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He's a sheriff, which means he was probably voted into position

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That county is basically rich conservatives and their staff. I'm sure he'll win more popularity for talking tough.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thats a threat and he can be sued.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    A criminal in charge of the law has just threatened American citizens with murder.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Tomorrow's gonna suck isn't it.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I thought the prevailing belief amongst morons is that more guns == more safety?

    Also, when did vandelism start carrying a death penalty charge? There has got to be a group out there that's looking to take legal action against these types of statements from a public official, right? Idk what laws, but that's got to be illegal.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    What a fucking blowhard.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Such a strange thing to say in a Stand Your Ground state.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Brevard ain’t big enough for them to hide if they pull that shit.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wonder what would happen if the names, addresses, and schools of the families of everyone that works in the sheriff's department were blasted out on social media.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    He must be killed

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Should help your states tourism situation. Good job rambo

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I live right next to where the No Kings protests will be taking place in my city.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Both sides are the same amirite

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Don't do that to the horse, it's immortal (phone decided I was not typing immoral and corrected me several times, so I guess this horse is immortal...)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    If he wants to be an occupying army he shouldn't be surprised when he gets treated like one.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    What a POS.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Well that nails the intention to harm and violate peoples civil rights, for future court cases.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Isn’t “dead” a little extra? I’ve never heard someone say “I’m going to kill you alive.”

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Land of the free and home of the brave

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