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[–] 120 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I prefer pressing buttons and turning nobs in the car.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Those fucked me up so much when learning to drive. Ah yes let's try starting uphill with the handbrake. Could not do it because I had no fucking clue when it was going to release.

    First time I had to do it in my dad's car which has a normal handbrake I had zero issues.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    One of the many reasons I'll hang onto my 2012 Toyota Corolla until I drive it into the ground. It has a touch screen for just the radio and Bluetooth, but it must be some sort of gen one prototype because it's pretty awful. Thankfully, everything else is tactile. I can't imagine giving it up.

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    [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    many countries need to go back to reasonable inconvenience for superior and ethical product. same-day shipping is accelerating the speed of climate change so no you don't get to have it actually. no, fruits and vegetables are not available 24/7, seasons matter again. etc and etc. we need to go back to all of this. we have to reduce the strain.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago

    I prefer how Nazis were dealt with in the past

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    It grinds my gears that programs are called 'apps' now. On phones it was normalized immediately, so, sure. Computers run programs, though, god dammit.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Something like 20 years ago, i assumed that every generation that comes after mine, will be so much better with computers, because they grow up with it. So that's not true at all as it turns out. I remember working with 20is year old guys together and they they mostly had iphones. They told me that they are also into computers, gaming and stuff like that. The more i talked to them the more i realised that they have no idea what i was talking about. I explained one of them how to do a thing on his phone and he was super lost. It was worse thN explaining my mom something. He kept asking where he finds the app i'm talking about and i kept telling him that it's not an app, it's something you do on the phone. Yeah i get that, but i don't have the app for that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Microsoft have been calling discrete computer programs "applications" since at least the Windows 95 era, when Program Manager was replaced with the start menu. They've been inconsistently kinda-sorta doing so since even Windows 3.x, maybe even more, but nobody was closely paying attention back then.

    It didn't become the current situation of monkey-see-monkey-do until Apple started using the terminology heavily with the iPhone, as you have observed. But they actually cribbed it from good old M$, much as they've cribbed basically everything else they've done in the modern era from someone else and simply painted it glossy white.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Program is such a funny word when you remember it's an analogy from radio and TV. Radio and TV are just delivery mechanisms for programs, which are the content and point of the medium.

    You could define a podcast as an internet-delivered audio program.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why? What is the functional difference between an application and a program?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Outside of Unix based programs, probably not a lot.

    In terms of their functionality most programs are standalone applications rather than tools where you modify the programming flow of the data.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is kind of niche, but I mix concerts for a living and newer consoles and shows are all scene based, every song has a scene, and most of the time every verse and chorus in the song has a sub scene. It is a breath of fresh air to be able to mix with no scenes and have to rely on pure skill and intuition. Those shows tend to have a better feel and be more energetic, albeit less polished. They are also more fun, and a little bit more stressful.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    I want back my Dumb TVs!! I dont want everything to be connected!

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  • [–] [S] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I want a phone where I am able to reach the top and the bottom of the screen without shifting my grip. Also being able to comfortably store in a pocket would be nice

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes! Make smaller phones! Why do they all have to be getting bigger and bigger?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I like the bigger phones (at least however big a pixel 6 is -- that seems about a perfect balance to me). Good to view web pages and videos as well as to use as the nav for my motorbike and still fits in the pocket. I find the smaller phones just too cramped.

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  • [+] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)
  • I think the issue is that back then, you only did important things with software. Now there is so much code doing the same simple things. Like how many ways does a person need to input thier birthday... and every tool we use.. if it is good it gets more and more expensive, and more and more cluttered as they try to expand thier market. So now a new cheaper tool that does the same thing gets written. I would bet 90 some % of code is copies of other code with scientifically meaningless difference. But someone has to write it all...

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  • [+] -21 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Uh oh. The ice carvers are complaining about the evils of refrigeration again...

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Uh oh, the bad faith AI bros are conflating luddites with anyone that disagrees with them again....

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No this is LITERALLY the same argument made hundreds/thousands of years ago against writing and books. Its the same argument the amish use. It IS the luddit pinnicle argument.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Says the Luddite without an argument...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Because I'm not arguing, genius, because a group of people that categorically reject all dissent as an appeal to nature fallacy is a group not worth engaging.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Sounds like a self-defeating argument. So glad I could stand by while you beat on that straw man for a while. Feeling better after that li'l display, champ?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Again, not an argument. You sure seem to be projecting about strawmen.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Sure, kiddo. Whatever gives you that dopamine hit for being yet-another random internet douchecanoe.

    "Hurr hurr... I'm right and I've decided you're wrong because reasons. I'm not going to engage with anyone because everyone rejects my assertions that I'm right and everyone else is wrong."

    Uh huh. Real nuanced perspective you got there.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Chill daddy, maybe ask yourself why people don't want to engage with you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    The Internet Dickwad theory has been around quite a while. It's not a giant mystery.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why are you still trolling for dopamine?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Same reason you're incapable of not having the last word.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh you're projecting again, cute. Like literally every single thing you've accused me of is blatantly on display in your replies. I sincerely hope you one day realize that you are the problem. Nobody is being mean to you, you're just acting like an asshole and getting treated like one.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Uh huh. Funny how many self-righteous people never seem to appreciate the concept of DARVO.

    Let me know when you've got something more interesting to say besides childishly commenting, "Nuh UH. I'm right because I say so."

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    You do not realize how many businesses operate every single day and make plenty of money on suboptimal code.

    Industrial scale everything does not care, so long as the job gets done and the invoice is paid.

    Just like with every other profession made obsolete by technology, the 80% case won't need your bespoke, hand-crafted, artisanal assembly. There will still be minority cases who will pay a premium for it. And plenty of people will still program as a hobby or for their local community. But industrial scale software will be written by bots.

    Because the world runs on good enough. No matter how many elitist neckbeards get butthurt in the process.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    I don’t like electric can openers. I strongly prefer to just use a manual one. I just see an appliance that has but one use and requires electricity to be tremendous waste.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I didn't even know electric can openers were a thing

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Making things electric was the "adding AI" of 20 years ago. Make something that works more complex and difficult to use, but the future!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    3000% honesty, you are right. It is a waste, using a good manual can opener is far more satisfying. Like the electricity needed for the electric one is miniscule at best but its still wasted since it rakes 10 seconds to open one with a manual. I get people who are differently abled and need these, but the average person gets no real value from an electric one.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Im going to disagree but its a bit situational for me. I used manual but I have a dog that requires this prescription canned dog food and when its that often the electric makes a difference. Its funny because the cans have pull tabe but it leaves a lip and I like to get the whole mass out like the crappy jello like cranberry sauce.

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  • [–] 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    TV.

    I hate the smart-TV workflow, its a terrible user experience: Turn the TV on... wait for the smart-TV OS to load... land on an app menu... navigate around and choose an app... wait for the app to load... select a profile... wait for the list of shows to load... scroll almost endlessly through shows... choose a show, finally... wait for the video to load...

    I miss when you turned the TV on and it was just instantly playing whatever channel you last had on, with one single interaction. I miss not having to make the conscious choice of what to watch and feel overwhelmed by so many options. I miss TV programs being a common experience, like an event, that everyone would be talking about together the next day, instead of everyone watching their own thing on their own schedule.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was truly exciting to look forward to a weekly show on TV.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    A group of us used to meet every week to watch Twin Peaks. We’d unplug the phone, drink coffee, and eat cherry pie (or apple for a bit of variation). Then we’d watch the episode again having just recorded it and try to figure out wtf was going on. Happy days.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you haven't used free Over-the-air TV these days you might be surprised that most cities have a few dozen channels of live TV right now. If your in a large metro area get the simplest of cheapest TV antennas, plug it into your TV, and do a channel scan. You'll be surprised how many channels there are now.

    If you're in suburbs or rural, you'll still likely have quite a few but may need a more substantial antenna.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You can still do that by paying for cable.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I have cable. It doesn't really work like that anymore. I used to be able to click through ALL the basic cable channels, catching a frame or two of every single channel, with zero delay between channels, all within like under a minute. These days every channel change or menu selection has a built-in delay of at least a second or two. Channel surfing just doesn't vibe the same anymore. That form of TV is mostly if not entirely dead.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    I miss physically owning software, movies, and music, not having to pay a subscription for car features like heated seats or more horsepower. I miss getting a complete game that was usually mostly glitch free on day one you got it on CD/DVD.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Socializing.

    No social media to distract people. Nobody staring a phones. Nobody recording themselves for streaming.

    You memorized phone numbers or wrote them down. You called or got called to meet up at some place and everyone went from there.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As a software and electrical engineer who has worked in life system critical projects as well as foundational financial systems with strict uptime and performance requirements....

    My home is as basic as humanly possible, no automation, manual systems for everything. Anything that must be digital is untrusted, isolated, and has a backup. A cabin in the woods off grid is the only way I feel comfortable

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I liked automation until the end of the aughts but software has gotten dystopic. Its still possible with open source but im a bit to lazy now honestly. There are so many things where the benefit just is not worth it. Why would I want any of my appliances on the grid or my thermostat. I mean if I had a robot to load the dishwasher then automation would be great. Same with cooking. Still would not want the fridge and thermostat automated. Lights make a bit of sense benefit wise but its not a huge benefit.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Dating. It's hard to manufacture that initial spark in an app.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lack of third places has been a real thorn in society, especially third places that you aren't expected to spend money.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    EDIT: I've just learned I was incorrect in my original comment below. Bars, taverns, nightclubs etc are included in third spaces according to Wikipedia. I guess I learned an alt definition at some point, or perhaps just a wrong definition.

    The definition of a third place is that you can spend time there without the expectation of buying something. If you're expected to spend money to occupy space, it's not a third place.

    (Fully agree that the loss of such spaces is killing us, though!)

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I've never brought a computer/laptop to class in uni except when I needed to do a presentation. I vastly prefer to take notes by hand because I find that I retain info much better. And I'm a massive doodler. I'm pretty pen and paper playing ttrpgs as well.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I am the complete opposite. My notes were terrible in college, such a mess.

    I bought a laptop for grad school and took all my notes in outline form. Changed everything. School was easy now. I was super organized and studying was trivial. No crap in the margins, no weird arrows pointing around because the prof added some comments to earlier info.

    Just wonderful,clean neat notes.

    Also, others wanted copies so I would sell them, wasnt a lot of money, but it kept me in donuts.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Agreed. I have ADHD and need that tactile feedback to commit things to memory.

    The only downside is that I can type so much faster than I can write by Hans.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Japan mostly skipped PCs (outside of offices). Since their phones were ahead of the curve, a lot of stuff was designed for them. That means that a bunch of stuff is either exclusively done through some shitty mobile app, fax, or in person. There was a brief phase where PC versions did exist, but those are almost all being neglected or decommissioned now. I much prefer to do things on a PC with a nice, clear, big screen, especially if I need to use some translation tool since the text tends to expand (learning thousands of kanji for stuff like legal and taxes is hard).

    I do miss physically owning media. A lot of physical media still decays, though, so not a panacea.

    Software programs that were much more tested and completed before release.

    Software development where we think things through, define requirements, define states, etc. before any code is committed. I do think PoCs are fine to throw something against a wall but, if it works, the proper version should go through those design phases before anyone writes a line of code. Cheap components and fast machines and networks have made people lazy which makes software worse in a number of ways quite often. No vibecoding. No AI/LLM shoved into everything. I think they can have uses in certain contexts (rephrasing questions, generating examples/docs in projects with bad/no docs, etc.), but hate how they are being shoved into everything.

    An internet not run by corporations. I think a lot of people do see it through rose-tinted glasses (we still had trolls on BBS, UseNet, IRC, etc. and other bad actors), but a lot of things were much better.

    Third spaces. Places where people of different backgrounds would interact in some common way. Sure, some were echo chambers just like online communities today, but many were not and let people interact together rather than just being othered to the point of fear and reviling.

    I much prefer AD&D 2.5 rules to anything around today (and TSR still existing, but that ship has sailed).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I do miss physically owning media. A lot of physical media still decays, though, so not a panacea.

    I prefer digital media that is locally stored. Many complaints I see about digital media revolves around DRM or a service's ability to remove media that you think you "own".

    I think locally stored media solves that without taking us back to the days of a shelf of hundreds of DVDs.

    I do own some physical media like certain very old PC games but only because there is no good digital option available that's more convenient.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I use locally stored digital media, but I still love my shelves of DVDs, CDs, and paper books. The CDs get ripped to FLAC and mostly left on the shelf thereafter, but I do still enjoy taking a movie off the shelf and loading it into the player.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I love a manual shift car, feels so much better to drive than automatic. Make bread from just flour, water, and salt, sourdough is an older method than dry yeast but it works better for me.

    I also love radio, literal airwaves, works when the wifi goes down, battery radios can work during emergencies but also I just love the tech it is so old and so cool. And getting music curated by humans (we have a local community station) is great.

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