The meme is making fun of US police specifically, and you’re going to get wild agreement on that. No one in Lemmy thinks our cops are good.

Now, if someone else brings up some historical event and one starts going on about how it’s a “western” hoax or getting into whataboutism, yeah, that will get you banned. And I have no intention of arguing there, it’s just an irreconcilable difference between .ml and most other instances.

I don't see why we have to contrast the US and China so that one is a good guy and one is a bad guy. Has the US exploited the rest of the world since WWII for our own financial interests? Yes. Do we have an increasingly authoritarian government seeking to eventually crush internal dissent? Yes.

None of that makes China good.

If you don't want to talk about Tiananmen Square, talk about China forcefully relocated migrant workers ahead of the Olympics in 2008. Talk about China sending Uyghurs to reeducation camps and forcefully sterilizing some of them. Talk about how China forced women to abandon/ abort babies for 30 years throughout vast swaths of their country. Talk about how people residing in China can't actually talk about any of these things, to the point where citizens of Hong Kong fought back with violent protests and many fled to resist their encroaching authoritarian hand.

Did China raise more than a billion people out of brutal poverty in a single generation, and was it one of the most impressive and important developments of the last century? Yes, absolutely. Is an authoritarian technocracy better able to deal with the issues facing humanity in the near future like climate change? Potentially.

That doesn't mean China's citizens enjoy civil liberties.

Fuck the US, but saying "lol x is better" is whats silly. Both can be shit at the same time and both can need revolution

Beyond that, they are beginning to just kill multiple US citizens daily, and that's just police. Policy kills more, it's just slow and easier for them to deny.