▲ -9 ▼ Libs: China is an AuThOrItArIaN DiCTatOrShIp! (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (10 children) Yes, like everywhere. Remember Tienanmen square protests? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, because it happened before I was born. Do you not understand what a self own it is that you have to go back four decades for an example of Chinese police killing the amount of people that the US police kill every four months? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 year ago* I don't see why we have to contrast the US and China so that one is a good guy and one is a bad guy. Has the US exploited the rest of the world since WWII for our own financial interests? Yes. Do we have an increasingly authoritarian government seeking to eventually crush internal dissent? Yes. None of that makes China good. If you don't want to talk about Tiananmen Square, talk about China forcefully relocated migrant workers ahead of the Olympics in 2008. Talk about China sending Uyghurs to reeducation camps and forcefully sterilizing some of them. Talk about how China forced women to abandon/ abort babies for 30 years throughout vast swaths of their country. Talk about how people residing in China can't actually talk about any of these things, to the point where citizens of Hong Kong fought back with violent protests and many fled to resist their encroaching authoritarian hand. Did China raise more than a billion people out of brutal poverty in a single generation, and was it one of the most impressive and important developments of the last century? Yes, absolutely. Is an authoritarian technocracy better able to deal with the issues facing humanity in the near future like climate change? Potentially. That doesn't mean China's citizens enjoy civil liberties. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* Yes, we do remember. What we don’t do is misremember. Previously. We also remember the Kent State University protest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml [S] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children) A well debunked western propaganda? I remember the debunking ya! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Azhad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Umm, no, they don't. The PRC is about as far from communism as the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) We're not talking about socialism. We're talking about authoritarianism. Yes China is socialist-ish and also yes China is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago I don't. China is VERY capitalist, it's just that the people profiteering are almost only state officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago Source: the PRC probably permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberals cannot comprehend anyone disagreeing with them permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, because it happened before I was born. Do you not understand what a self own it is that you have to go back four decades for an example of Chinese police killing the amount of people that the US police kill every four months? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 year ago* I don't see why we have to contrast the US and China so that one is a good guy and one is a bad guy. Has the US exploited the rest of the world since WWII for our own financial interests? Yes. Do we have an increasingly authoritarian government seeking to eventually crush internal dissent? Yes. None of that makes China good. If you don't want to talk about Tiananmen Square, talk about China forcefully relocated migrant workers ahead of the Olympics in 2008. Talk about China sending Uyghurs to reeducation camps and forcefully sterilizing some of them. Talk about how China forced women to abandon/ abort babies for 30 years throughout vast swaths of their country. Talk about how people residing in China can't actually talk about any of these things, to the point where citizens of Hong Kong fought back with violent protests and many fled to resist their encroaching authoritarian hand. Did China raise more than a billion people out of brutal poverty in a single generation, and was it one of the most impressive and important developments of the last century? Yes, absolutely. Is an authoritarian technocracy better able to deal with the issues facing humanity in the near future like climate change? Potentially. That doesn't mean China's citizens enjoy civil liberties. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 year ago* I don't see why we have to contrast the US and China so that one is a good guy and one is a bad guy. Has the US exploited the rest of the world since WWII for our own financial interests? Yes. Do we have an increasingly authoritarian government seeking to eventually crush internal dissent? Yes. None of that makes China good. If you don't want to talk about Tiananmen Square, talk about China forcefully relocated migrant workers ahead of the Olympics in 2008. Talk about China sending Uyghurs to reeducation camps and forcefully sterilizing some of them. Talk about how China forced women to abandon/ abort babies for 30 years throughout vast swaths of their country. Talk about how people residing in China can't actually talk about any of these things, to the point where citizens of Hong Kong fought back with violent protests and many fled to resist their encroaching authoritarian hand. Did China raise more than a billion people out of brutal poverty in a single generation, and was it one of the most impressive and important developments of the last century? Yes, absolutely. Is an authoritarian technocracy better able to deal with the issues facing humanity in the near future like climate change? Potentially. That doesn't mean China's citizens enjoy civil liberties. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* Yes, we do remember. What we don’t do is misremember. Previously. We also remember the Kent State University protest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml [S] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children) A well debunked western propaganda? I remember the debunking ya! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Azhad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Umm, no, they don't. The PRC is about as far from communism as the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) We're not talking about socialism. We're talking about authoritarianism. Yes China is socialist-ish and also yes China is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago I don't. China is VERY capitalist, it's just that the people profiteering are almost only state officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago Source: the PRC probably permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberals cannot comprehend anyone disagreeing with them permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Azhad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Umm, no, they don't. The PRC is about as far from communism as the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) We're not talking about socialism. We're talking about authoritarianism. Yes China is socialist-ish and also yes China is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago I don't. China is VERY capitalist, it's just that the people profiteering are almost only state officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago Source: the PRC probably permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberals cannot comprehend anyone disagreeing with them permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Umm, no, they don't. The PRC is about as far from communism as the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) We're not talking about socialism. We're talking about authoritarianism. Yes China is socialist-ish and also yes China is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago I don't. China is VERY capitalist, it's just that the people profiteering are almost only state officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago Source: the PRC probably permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Umm, no, they don't. The PRC is about as far from communism as the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) We're not talking about socialism. We're talking about authoritarianism. Yes China is socialist-ish and also yes China is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) We're not talking about socialism. We're talking about authoritarianism. Yes China is socialist-ish and also yes China is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) We're not talking about socialism. We're talking about authoritarianism. Yes China is socialist-ish and also yes China is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago You do realize there are communists other than you, right? Or is that the royal we? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago I don't. China is VERY capitalist, it's just that the people profiteering are almost only state officials. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago Source: the PRC probably permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago Liberals cannot comprehend anyone disagreeing with them permalink fedilink source parent