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[–] 34 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Says the country that violates human rights left, right and center.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    ...except the title literally includes Trump's name. Trump, the guy whose the elimination of USAID has literally.... literally....killed over 50,000 people due to removing food, medicine, and support for people around the world.

    Trump is accusing others of failing to uphold human rights. Peak irony.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just pointing out the hypocrisy isn't an ad hominem.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The reason to point out hypocrisy in politics is to get down to what the person really wants. For example, the pastor who preached against The Gays, and then ends up being convicted of grooming children. He obviously wasn't going after LGBTQ+ people out of some moral stance, so we look for other explanations. Gaining political power is one possibility.

    In general, logical fallacies should be used to pick apart your own argument, not throwing it in other people's faces.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago
    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nazi rights are not human rights. The US will never understand.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The UK is also encroaching on human rights, looking at the mass arrests that happened at the PA protest the other day, the online safety act, and the increased use of facial recognition tech in policing.

    Although they probably aren't what Trump is on about

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    That's funny because personally, I'd accuse the Trump administration of protecting an orange fuckwit paedo nonce by not releasing the Epstein files.

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    CECOT

    Epstein

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Like prodcribing palestine action as a terrorist org right? Right?

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    [–] 54 points 1 year ago

    Pot-kettle assholes.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Every accusation is an admission.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You know just because a fascist says something doesn't make it untrue right? Like always double check what they say but them saying it doesn't make it untrue. The UK is following so much closer behind the US than some people want to admit. Hell half of Europe is still an elections away from ending up with a far right candidate. Now that Trump has been president for a bit I wonder how much of that immediate reaction you saw with Germany will continue.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If anything the UK is miles ahead when it comes to fascism

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    They did the same with Germany. The US is not able to conduct independent evaluations anymore, as the authorities are more and more driven my political decisions. This makes the content of the evaluations irrelevant, their only purpose now is to use them as political instruments.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    I mean thats true but this is one of the few times they are right. UK and Germany as well are really failing at upholding human rights.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Compared to the US? You are insane if you believe that.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I mean, is the US really the metric you want to use? If anyone is even slightly better, even fractionally, than the US it means they're doing fine? Seems like too low a bar to me.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    As this arcticle is about the US administration condemning the human rights situation in the UK I think it is the metric that makes the most sense here.

    Saying "yeah the US administration may be fascists and are conducting this assessment to push right extreme parties in Europe, but that doesn't matter because they are right" is a very dangerous position in my opinion.

    Edit: Oh what a coincidence https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/world/europe/jd-vance-nigel-farage-reform-uk.html

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    it's not that it doesn't matter, and no one here holds that position. it's that "UK is fascist" is not any less true just because it's the fascist US that said it

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    I'm American, living in the UK, and have recently been to the US. The US is visibly fascist. The UK isn't, despite the government's heavy-handed, imbecilic ban on Palestine Action, and their even stupider efforts to ban encryption. Starting with Tony Blair, Labour has had a strong authoritarian faction, exemplified by the dire Yvette Cooper, but so far they haven't succeeded in turning the whole country to shit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    No one said "Compared to the US." You added that part yourself.

    It can be simultaneously true that "The UK and Germany still have a better human rights record than the US" and "The UK and Germany are really failing at upholding human rights."

    People in the UK are being arrested for saying that the genocide in Gaza is bad. People in the UK have to submit their ID or a face scan just to log in to Discord or Spotify. Trans rights are being systematically eradicated. Are you going to tell me that those are all good things as far as human rights goes?

    The worst part about the dire state of human rights in the US is that it lets everyone else get away with shit like this while saying "Hey, at least we're not those guys." The last thing you should be doing is supporting that kind of excuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    No you are understanding me wrong. I asked "compared to the US" as this is an article about the US condemning the human rights situation in UK. I think it is dangerous to hop on the train while Shady Vance is meeting with Nigel Farage, it is clear that this is a politically motivated move. People should talk about this right now to support the right extremists in the UK.

    I am in no way saying the situation in UK is good, I just think we should be careful when to give attention to what because of who is saying something.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Compared to the US? You are insane if you believe that.

    This you? Because I really can't see how you justify inventing something that someone else didn't remotely claim, and then calling them insane for believing the words you put in their mouth.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I asked "compared to the US" as this is an article about the US condemning the human rights situation in UK

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, you're still incapable of understanding that you're acting like an asshole here, and I'm done trying to teach you basic communication skills.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    I apologize if my answers have offended anybody, that was clearly not my intention. I just tried to underline my point I have extensively explained in my other answers. To be honest, I find your communication pretty rude. I think you might exagerate here and I don't see where you try to add understanding to this discussion, or "teach me communication skills" how you call it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They did the same with Germany.

    Germans murdered my family in the Nazi genocide. Now Germany is targeting me for protesting Israel’s Holocaust in Gaza.

    Coming from Trump, it's more of a "They can do it, so why can't we do it?" fascist whining. But West Germany remained a fascist enclave from the 1950s straight up until the 1980s. And fascists continue to riddle the police, the media, and the financial sectors to this day.

    This makes the content of the evaluations irrelevant

    It's a pot calling the kettle Nazi. But it isn't wrong.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That is a bold statement coming from an administration who is rounding up people to be put in prisons under terrible conditions

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I mean, that's sort of the joke. Just ICE Spiderman pointing at MET Spiderman.

    Starmer's out there doing Liberal Fascism to satisfy a bunch of Zionists who won't be happy until Nigel Farage has his head on a pike. Not unlike how Biden, Hochul, and Adams handled the Columbia student protests.

    Trump gets in a few face punches because his liberal opposition are too busy fishing in their pants for AIPAC donations.

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    Pretty bold statement coming from the mouth of fascist America.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Bold coming from pedophile fascists...

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Every time I see Vance, I want to piss on his face

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    No self-awareness of any kind

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    "I'm over here committing human rights violations left and right and you assholes haven't lifted a finger to try and stop me!"

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The UK is officially too evil for Trump

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Broken clock is right twice a day.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You mean when the hand is pointing backwards towards themselves? Otherwise I'm not following this adage. 😅

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I won't be the one calling the UK blameless, but that's rich coming from the country that's doing what they are with ICE (which is just the latest one in a long list).

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The two examples the US uses - 'chilling online free speech after the Southport attacks' (translation: not giving credence to the lies Farage and the extreme right invented about the immigration status of the perpetrator in order to avoid people being burned to death in hotels) and 'prohibitions around silent prayer outside abortion clinics' (translation: stopping christofascists from trying to intimidate service users and providers) speak volumes about what fascist America sees as the only important free speech.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's true, while hilariously hypocritical. I feel bad for laughing. But gallows humor, as they say.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Did they manage to say it with a straight face?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    s/accuses/praises/g

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The blackest of pots meeting the blackest of kettles!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    i cant unsee the caterpillar cake

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It doesn’t say they’re being critical.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Translation: UK is not forcing media to provide a platform for fascists.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    What a load of bollocks

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    The US is led by a human trafficker.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    First Germany and now the UK. Guess this is his lame attempt at “extortion”

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    More like an attempt to normalize accusations of human rights violations.

    “They’re calling our culling of homeless a violation of human rights, but cmon look at all these other small things we called violations!”

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    This is part of the hard turn away from Europe and twords Russia.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The pot calling the kettle black. LoL

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