The police surveillance company Flock has built an enormous nationwide license plate tracking system, which streams records of Americans’ comings and goings into a private national database that it makes available to police officers around the country. The system allows police to search the nationwide movement records of any vehicle that comes to their attention. That’s bad enough on its own, but the company is also now apparently analyzing our driving patterns to determine if we’re “suspicious.” That means if your police start using Flock, they could target you just because some algorithm has decided your movement patterns suggest criminality.

Flock appears to offer this capability through a larger “Investigations Manager,” which urges police departments to “Maximize your LPR data to detect patterns of suspicious activity across cities and states.” The company also offers a “Linked Vehicles” or “Convoy Search” allowing police to “uncover vehicles frequently seen together,” putting it squarely in the business of tracking people’s associations, and a “Multiple locations search,” which promises to “Uncover vehicles seen in multiple locations.” All these are variants on the same theme: using the camera network not just to investigate based on suspicion, but to generate suspicion itself.

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[–] 72 points 1 year ago

p r e c r i m e

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    With our new Multi-State Insights feature, law enforcement is alerted when suspect vehicles have been detected in multiple states, helping investigators uncover networks and trends linked to major crime organizations.

    It always helps, when reading this kind of blurb, to mentally replace "major crime organizations" with things like "women or trans people seeking medical care" or "environmentalists" or "people attending protests" or "union members" or "police officers' battered exes" or just "brown people going anywhere." It gives you a better idea of how the police will actually use the tool.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I'm amazed folks aren't systematically destroying ALPRs yet.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I was just thinking about fun ways to mess with them the other day haha

    A big rolodex scrolling through fake plates on a Lightning McQueen cutout would be interesting.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Fake plates aren't legal. I was curious and looked that up the other day. Even at nonstandard locations.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Even if they’re not attached to an actual motor vehicle?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I imagine some picketers with fake plates for signs in front of LPR's could claim free speech protections. Not their fault Flock's system ingested bogus data. Haha!

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    This is exactly the dystopian future all privacy advocates were warning about.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So I'm seeing a bunch of complaining about this. Anybody have any actionable suggestions on how to frustrate this intrusion?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Ask the Brits:

    Vigilantes took out a speed camera in Lincolnshire, England on October 23. A gasoline-filled tire was used to destroy the automated ticketing machine on the A153 Main Road at Anwick, the Sleaford Standard reported. Police have no idea who may be responsible.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    When I was looking for a job recently, they kept coming up in the searches and even having spent time in defense, I couldn't bring myself to engage with them.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are we in psychopass yet or are we psychopast that?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Driving while black 2: electric boogaloo

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That'll all be denied and used for parallel reconstruction.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is why I don’t install a front plate and put reflective paint over my license. Readers can’t read it now. And it’s not visible by the human eye.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Please to suggest the right brand of paint? This is a very good idea. Something that will reflect infrared but is transparent in the visible spectrum….

    It is definitely time for some popular resistance methods to be widely deployed.

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    I was watching random body cam footage recently and in one of the arrests they commented that the traffic stop/detention was because flock had identified unusual multi state activity. The cops had absolutely nothing else to work with but because the drivers in the group of cars didn't speak much English they were able to force illegal searches and found that they were carrying high value goods that they felt were stolen. The whole thing was a huge mess of insane 4th and 5th amendment violations.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Saved me from posting the link to deflock myself. Nice work!

    I wonder if the ai will notice that the only camera i hit is the one right outside my job and nowhere else even though my town is positively flooded with them.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Bear in mind the map is far from compete. It's best to learn what they look like so you can ID them in real time. Also the issue isn't your commute, it's when you deviate from it for whatever purpose. For instance, if you need to go pick up a friend from a protest you'll need to map a specific route to avoid them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Indeed. Which is why I've likened it to a weirdly modern underground railroad.

    Knowing how to navigate at least my town and id say roughly 20 miles of radius around where i live without hitting any is a skill i have, i just hope it won't be useful.

    But yes, keep an eye out for poles with small solar panels, or black cameras on the BACK of stoplight arms. Keep in mind most of these cameras have to be at eye level or just above to get a clear shot of as many licenses as possible.

    A brief scenario where someone tailgating you may be a good thing lol.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Would something like this hold up in court, I wonder? Could a prosecutor argue that "the algorithm said so" is enough probable cause?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago*

    Works like this, cop gets told to look out for your car. He sees you and follows you, sooner or later you do something that let's him justify pulling you over then he asks you a bunch of questions and decides you are acting nervous, or smells alcohol, or smells pot. Then he either convinces you to let him search your car or he gets a dog to come say it smells drugs, or and this is my favorite he gets you upset by getting in your personal space and amping you up, then when he quickly reaches for your arm and you jerk away he can arrest you for resisting. Then they search the car to make sure everything is documented for impound, then they seize money and expensive things to make sure it isn't connected to any crimes.

    Charges against you get dropped or you plead to something lesser and you walk, but now you have to prove that your shit was legally yours.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Minority Report here we come...

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Flock? as in sheep? is that name for a surveillance company revealing how they feel about civilians?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It really does feel like a lazy too-on-the-nose name from a sci-fi dystopia writer who REALLY wants to make sure you get the point that the company is evil. It just sounds creepy without even getting into the obvious connotations.

    Also their website looks like it was inspired by the evil company from that Watchdogs game.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I feel like these cunts only watched the first half of Minority Report.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    We must walk without rhythm

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Even amidst all the other insane news, this stands out as a remarkable and even surprisingly bad leap forward. It's not like I consented, like when people put trackers in their car for insurance discounts. I'm literally just going out into public, and that gives a company the right to record and analyze me and my car and report me to the police? I don't even get the chance to sign up to opt-out, which even that would be fucked up? And of course the algorithms could be anything - going to gay bars, going to libraries, etc.

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  • There is so many problems with this

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    These system are nowhere near ready to be used on the public. The companies and bureaucrats that allow this should be locked up for gross negligence.

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