So... What make it's different from PlayOnLinux or Bottles or Winetricks ?
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And so cometh the foretold LSW (Linux Subsystem for Windows)
Well will it run Winamp because I inadvertently read the title as Winamp and now I need it again
Audacious is your friend. It accepts old Winamp skins!
I've been rocking the Windows XP skin on Linux Mint
It really whips the llama's ass!
What about graphics acceleration? Does it need gpu pass through?
I'm positive it has the same issues as any other Windows VM setup. If you've got two GPUs, you can probably pass one of them through to the VM and get good graphical performance.
I wish the virtio-gpu stuff hadn't died on Windows...
EDIT: It might not be dead? That's cool if so.
Wait, Docker and Podman can create Windows VMs?
I had winapps setup using QEMU quite a while ago but this seems like a much tidier setup.
Docker and Podman can't run Windows VMs by themselves. These containers use QEMU, so it's essentially a pre-made setup for what you already had.
That's a shame. Still very cool and much tidier than doing it directly but I thought you could actually pull windows:latest now and get going.
That will unfortunately never be a thing. They could theoretically do a "Docker machine" like setup to support actual Windows containers, but there's probably not enough interest in that.
No, it's not a thing, it's literally what I described earlier - QEMU in a Docker container. That's why the Dockerfile imports files from QEMU, and why the entrypoint starts the VM using QEMU. The project this whole thread is about uses dockur/windows as the base.
It will never be a thing.
Yeah, had to dive in myself.
The answer is no, they can’t. You need to pass /dev/kvm and /dev/net/tun in a composefile for a reason.
There’s no „windows in docker”, but rather „handy windows vm orchestrator with nice UI in a container”. A bit of a mouthful.
Anyone try this yet? Office and adobe on Linux easily working on Linux would be big.
It running in podman just windows VM and connection to real host done with rdp window capture from windows.I tried it not that bad can be used for office work i used it with tiny11
What's the difference of this and WINE?
tldr: VM->RDP seamless render
WinApps works by: Running Windows in a Docker, Podman or libvirt virtual machine. Querying Windows for all installed applications. Creating shortcuts to selected Windows applications on the host GNU/Linux OS. Using FreeRDP as a backend to seamlessly render Windows applications alongside GNU/Linux applications.
Additional Features
- The GNU/Linux
/homedirectory is accessible within Windows via the\\tsclient\homemount
Well I for one won't be touching this with a ten foot pole.
That's just a feature of XFreeRDP. You literally just have to delete one flag from the command that starts the RDP client if you don't want to share you home dir. I'm not sure if winapps-org is still just a shell script but the original winapps was, so modifying the command was trivial.
If that works with silly mobile games as well, maybe I can get my mom on Linux
Yah, I dinked with this for far too long on several docker-based windows installs I have around the network including localhost on a non-standard port. Fails to set up and gives no messages to follow up when it does. I can connect to them fine with a normal xfreerdp command.
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docker based windows install ? How ? windows in qemu in docker ?
office in wine in docker and somehow exporting display to wayland ?
How does that work ?
I've been using the same windows/dockur setup for a couple years that they outline in the Winapp docs. It uses KVM via a docker cap you give it permission for in the docker compose.
It should work with this Winapp thing, but I haven't gotten much success so far trying to connect it. I've just been RDPing into them but I'd have liked to just pull the relevant windows alone, more like Terminal Service Applications.
Thanks !
I've never heard of that one
I had investigated distrobuilder in repack-windows mode
This sounds like a similar version of that with docker instead of lxc ?
I'm really curious to find some way to have just an application being streamed from one of those, instead of a whole desktop. Like just the application window, resizable like a regular window and using the decorations of the receiving OS
Does anyone know if it can run Visual Studio? Would be awesome so i could switch to Linux for my Job
Visual Studio Code runs natively on linux. Not sure if that's what you meant though.
i think they're talking about the proper old visual studio, a full-blown IDE!
it's listed on the project's readme!
Paint.net' child window always got mess up and float across the screen towards the left side
I don't ever mean to be a downer but I feel this will hurt users in the long run. Just simy extending an umbilicle to Microsoft's teat because they can't be assed to let go and stop suckling. M$O and Adobe CC are some of the worst offenders for SaaS bullshittery.
The thing is, sometimes you need Microsoft not of your own volition but because of bureaucracy. When I was signing a contract recently, the government required me to fill in a office word document and it would not work at all on libre, I had to scramble around the house, went through 3 different computers trying to get any of them to have office working after I just recently uninstalled it from all of them to use libre only, but in the end I had to use a university computer to fill in the doc.
As much as I want to move from them, Excel and Photoshop are too advance compared to any alternative, including both FOSS and commercial one.
Even Excel Online is not as advance as Excel desktop.
Casual users can get away from them, not advance user that needs unique feature only available in the software.
You are gonna love only office. Their spreadsheet work as close to excil as possible.
I actually use it for some PC, still missing a lot of features tho.
I've used only office and it's still not Excel. Like the prior commenter said, even excel online isn't as good as desktop excel. I actually run a VM for just a few apps, excel being one of them.
sure you can but why would you want to
I'm gonna try this out. I like to use a DnD character generation sheet that only supports Adobe PDF with its js shenanigans. There really isn't any sheet generator that comes close to it, I checked.
A DND character sheet is enough to use adobe? I wonder how we ever got by before it.
In any case let's see it. Curious if I could change it to something else, or is it custom by you?
Here it is. https://www.flapkan.com/ It is so convenient that I still deal with the inconvenience of dual booting. I really hope you can convince me to use something else.
I used to use this, but I always found it really janky - window boundaries not updating, weird graphical glitches, etcetera.
It was especially annoying to use with Photoshop and GPU acceleration (I do GPU passthrough to my VM).
In the end, I just abandoned it and just used the monitor the VM’s GPU is plugged into.
If this can run Clip Studio Paint, I'll take it.
Krita and GIMP lacks too many advance features for comic creation.
What’s actually the best one? I used to use PlayOnLinux and it worked so well. But then it started to have problems and I read it was abandoned.
So, for example, if I wanted to play Guild Wars with multilaunch, what integrator would be smoothest and least complicated?
Yeah I don’t play it on Steam, I use the old launcher because I run multilaunch. I was playing it back in ‘06 and am stuck in my ways.
I’ll take a look in Lutris, though, thanks.
We should put all this work into rewriting them
I’m gonna test this immediately. Lightroom is one of the only things keeping me from switching fully. Though it seems like it would be easier to accomplish a lot of this by emulating a native Mac system just due to the closeness in philosophy, but I’m no OS dev.
@cm0002 very interesting. Although I use the Foss alternatives, this could be the next step to get people over to Linux.
WinApps works by: Running Windows in a Docker, Podman or libvirt virtual machine.
This seems like an okay solution, but my questions are:
- How much overhead does this add? (Excel and Adobe products can be pretty heavy)
- How much latency does it add? (Will things have good responsiveness, or will it behave like an app through RDP?)
- How good is the hardware passthrough? (Editing video benefits greatly from GPU acceleration, Teams can be tricky about USB mics and cameras)
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