The Trump administration is telling states they will be shut out of a $42 billion broadband deployment fund if they set the rates that Internet service providers receiving subsidies are allowed to charge people with low incomes.

The latest version of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) FAQ on the grant program, released today, is a challenge to states considering laws that would force Internet providers to offer cheap plans to people who meet income eligibility guidelines. One state already has such a law: New York requires ISPs with over 20,000 customers in the state to offer $15 broadband plans with download speeds of at least 25Mbps, or $20-per-month service with 200Mbps speeds.

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[–] [S] 132 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Something something states rights, lol

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, states are still free to do as they wish if they are okay not receiving money from this fund.

    Lots of stupid going on with this, but I wouldn’t consider it a violation of the tenth amendment.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    That's not the argument Republicans make. They say using federal funding to influence state decisions is violating the rights of the state to make decisions for itself. This isn't a legal argument, but an ethical one. They aren't claiming actual constitutional violations, rather a violation of the spirit of state independence.

    I agree with a lot of this opinion, if they were making it in good faith. However, they obviously are not, as usual. They want states to be free to make decisions about not providing education to children, but they should be forced to not allow people to choose to have abortions, for example. If they were consistent it wouldn't create so many issues, but they just want to enforce their views on others.

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  • [–] 93 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Small consolation, but I expect Trump voters will be disproportionally affected.

    The states and ISPs need to make noise about this, so MAGA knows what they're missing.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Almost every bit of news regarding Trump is bad. He wants them in the dark.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, he's not just grifting this time, he's actively working against the American people and their interests, as well as our nations. It's the literal definition of treason

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    There is nothing you've said that can't be applied to virtually every decision he's made since getting back into office. Plenty of it is grift. Most of it is fulfilling the wishes of giant corporations and the GOP. It just so happens that the interests of those two groups almost never align with those of the American citizens or even his most ardent supporters.

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    We've already paid for nationwide broadband, and the corpos took the money, did a fraction of the work, and called it done. I don't see what this latest infusion of cash-to-corpos is going to do for the average Joe.

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  • Release the Epstein files.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This will most likely hurt rural voters, who overwhelmingly supported Donny Dipshit, the most, given the expense of expanding Internet availability to rural communities.

    It really is hard to overstate how badly the average Republican voter shot himself in the vote. Not that they care.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's a surprising amount of rural electric co-ops that have pivoted to installing fiber on their own poles and becoming their own ISP. It's honestly impressive, they have done more to tell the major ISPs to fuck right off than any city ever has.

    I was trying to find a clear list or map, but this site suggests 250 coops are doing this. Since the coops usually encompass a single county, you can sorta read that as 250 rural counties across America have already told at&t and comcast to kiss their yeehaw ass

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Trump rapes more than women, now he has a whole nation.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Lmfao or what

    Also, this is transparently an effort to push people towards Starlink. They are trying to holistically control the flow of information to as great a proportion of the population that they can.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Uh, what kind of speed do you need?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Pay higher so we can be tracked like in FL, where you have to show ID to watch porn?

    What a fucking joke

    BTW, whats the typical price for internet access these days in the US? Havent been there since 2024.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

    I pay $140/mo for ~300 down / 100 up. I found another provider with similar bandwidth for $50/mo, but I self-host a couple things, and they wouldn't assign me an IPv6 prefix or allow port forwarding. Also, my son complained because his games had 70 ms ping on the less expensive provider.

    Edit: I'm in a big city, I think it's even worse in rural areas.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Wow. I live in Denmark and I pay 150 dollars every 4 months for 1Gb up and down.

    You guys are getting scammed in the US.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    If port-forwarding is an issue, you can always use a free VPN to reach your self-hosted services. Or if you want to make them public, you can set up yourself a relay on AWS LightSail for less than 5$/month. Or if you want to save as much as possible you can use TailScale or CloudFlare's Zero Trust network to self-host for free using their server as a relay.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I've been port forwarding for decades at this point. I just recently found out about tunneling your traffic through relays like that. Pretty neat stuff. Glad I can finally ditch my isp and switch to another without worrying about their port forwarding policies

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    $90/mo for 1Gbps up and down for me in a 30k town for me. I also have two fiber providers, one cable, and wireless as options. I realize I'm more of the exception than the rule. When I first moved here, 50Mbps cable was my only option.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    How are they blocking port forwarding? Just put your own router in...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I already have my own router, but they do NAT from the modem with no way to switch to bridge mode.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ah, fucking assholes.

    I had to call my ISP because I specifically requested a modem only, no router, and they gave me one of their stupid locked-down combo units.

    If you bitch enough, they will relent.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    This was T-Mobile 5G internet, and they only had one modem available. I never bothered looking for my own 5G modem (assuming T-Mobile would even allow BYOD), because my son was already complaining about his ping. And even then, they would still only assign a single IPv6 instead of the full /64 prefix I get with my current provider.

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    I pay $55 for a gig. I got a promo rate though.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    How in the world does this clown even still have supporters?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The more overworked people are the more willing they are to take intellectual shortcuts and not think independently. One of those shortcuts is to mistake a contrarian opinion as independent thought. Throw in a contrarian leader into an economy where people are overworked and this is the result.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What the cuck authority does he have to do that? None.

    An and Trump is in the Epstein files

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They're probably trying to stop low-income people from having some means of learning about the world (at least until the Trump Administration manages to control their part of the Internet like China does) and reducing their ability to organise en masse.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Comcast must have done a shit ton of bribes this year.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I guess its time to start hacking and cloning cable modems again. Gotta fight these fuckers somehow.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Again? I didn't know this was even a thing

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah, used to be a big problem in some places like florida back when you could just ovveride dns settings and get free internet off any modem. It requires custom firmware and other things these days that make reselling such a free hookup impractical, but thats not gonna stop me from helping people do it for free.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_Haunt

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncapping

    https://archive.org/stream/Hacking_The_Cable_Modem_2006/Hacking_The_Cable_Modem_2006_djvu.txt

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Good to see internet providers getting what they bought the media for

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Back in high school, I learned that the House of Representatives controlled the governments' purse strings. When did that change to the President controlling? Granted that the current batch of republican reprobates in the House would likely do whatever Trump says, but they don't even get asked or vote on it now.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    When did that change to the President controlling?

    When the president decided that he can do whatever he wants because nobody with the authority to stop him is willing to do so.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The same guy's leadership killed Net-Neutrality

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    This is like comic book evil Jesus.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Aus we are going to get 2g up 200mb down in sept. Currently its a joke of 1g up 40mb down for $110 a month. But the reaosn for that is 2013 and the coalition being shit heels and the australian voter also being a shit heel

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm paying $80 a month for a gig, it only comes bundled with a phone plan, a cable TV plan, and a gaggle of ad-enabled streaming services. Most days I get 200mbps down, and about 80 up. That's the best I could get.

    No, I don't live in bumfuck nowhere, I live in one of the 20 most populous cities in the US.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Having lived in the mid level of an NYC apt block: offer your neighbors upstairs and downstairs their own wifi network off your ddwrt/openwrt router, split the fast internet 3 ways and still pay less than any "low price" plan.

    Doesn't take much to setup, and just ask them to Venmo or whatever. You're not a landlord, you're taking from the shit-ass ISPs and spreading the wealth while all of you profit equally.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What if they access / do illegal stuff with your shared internet though?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Can this guy just fucking die already?

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