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[–] 40 points 1 year ago (15 children)

We're all just going to ignore the ,|'/` key?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    the left side is equally cursed

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    How often do most people use § and ½ !? Is a dedicated key really necessary?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I work as an engineer in an governmental capacity. Use § daily when writing letters citing legislation.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    § is common in meeting minutes and legal texts. dunno about ½ though

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "common" really depends on context

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    i thought "in the context of which this keyboard layout is useful" was fairly implicit in this case

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My point was more about it being common in meeting minutes. I can't say I've ever seen it in use as such despite sitting through a decade's worth of meetings, though I also don't doubt that it's used in certain specific contexts

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    well here it's used all the time. i've also sat through a decade's worth of meetings, mainly as the secretary, and section signs are expected. last time i used it was in june.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The key to the right of Å is you looking at this keyboard.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I bought a laptop with a Swedish keyboard since I'll be studying there for a few years. It's a learning curve for sure and this face is accurate

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I once had a laptop with (I think) Swedish kb (that I bought during my studies in Latvia), but it wasn't this loaded. Judging by the comments, this seems to be a mixed Scandinavian kb layout, for multiple languages.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Similiar to Swiss one but worse.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ok I'm probably the idiot here, but why not just make one key umlauts, and one for both directions of apostrophe, and then make it a key combo with the standard vowel?

    Like how shift+a = A, it would be umlaut+a = ä, and shift+umlaut+a = Ä?

    How do the real keys (pic) even work?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I'm guessing (not sure) that AltGr, visible in the picture, switches between the two options like Shift would. Shift still switches case.

    I think the main reason they didn't make an umlaut modifier is that ä is considered a distinct letter from a. It would be like asking why have a key for w ("double u") when it could have been typed as uu. Not a perfect analogy but the best I can think of right now.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Swiss here, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

    In all seriousness; it's for german, french and italian. Guess it was just determined to use the limited keys more effieciently in typing. And some are combinators and 9 of 10 people don't know which or what or how.

    https://kbdlayout.info/KBDSG/

    Ah, btw, we can only type uppercase ÄÖÜ via capslock.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm a German that uses an US keyboard with the US intl layout. I think it solves all of my keyboard needs: I have the benefits of the US layout for programming and access to all common umlauts.r RAlt+S = ẞ e.g. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tastaturbelegung_US-International

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    As someone who isn't clued up on Nordic languages and has no idea how any of this is supposed to be pronounced, my brain just went to the overtones for help

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Æ = Like the A in (American) "asshole"
    Å = Like the A in (British) "awful".
    Ø = Like the U in (American) "Ugly".

    As a Scandinavian, one of my biggest pet peeves is when someone uses Ø instead of O because they think it looks cool. Sure, whatever, but it makes reading it really insufferable. Imagine if someone typed your name as UnduBrani and expected you to pronounce it the same while not tripping over decades of reading practice.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is because someone can't be arsed to make a dedicated Norwegian/Swedish/Danish keyboard. Norway and Denmark uses æ/ø/å. But ofc not the same key position. Sweden ä/ö/å. The same goes for several of the other keys. What they type depends on language used

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    This looks like a Norwegian/Swedish keyboard. What’s infuriating about it?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It's a nordic keyboard, and it's infuriating that it's imposible to tell which key is Æ and which is Ø. Just decide on one key for each for f..ks sake.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's easy. If you're swedish, look for the swedish letters. If you're danish, look at the first letter, and if you're norwegian look at the second.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It’s easy.

    Just be Swedish.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Hey, it's Danish too!

    The infuriating part is that Danes and Norwegians couldn't agree on which buttons to place the Æ and Ø. Even worse is that usually the Norwegian layout is more pronounced/better positioned for backlighting making the Danish Æ and Ø look like an afterthought.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Apropriate time to say the Norwegian alphabet is the best?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f488uJAQgmw (Funny song about why Norways alphabet is the best)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    How do you pronounce that letter? There's a Danish band I've been getting into lately, MØL, but I don't know how to say it. I've been saying "mole" in my head, but I doubt that's right. It seems to get romanized as "oe" so would it be pronounced "mo-el"?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The musician MØ was asked how to pronounce her stage name once, and she pointed out its just her initials (Marie Ørsted) so there's not really a right pronunciation to MØ.

    I still don't have a clue how Ø is pronounced, like in Ørsted.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The Ø is pronounced as eg. the vowel sound in "learn" or the vowel sound in "bird".

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    "Learn" and "bird" are pronounced very differently depending on the accent of English. Wiktionary has "learn" RP pronunciation listed as lɜːn and American as lɝn, although personally I don't believe in ɝ so I would write it as lɹn and bɹd.

    Slight rant about American English IPA, but Wiktionary even has American "bird" listed as bɜɹd, which is frankly ridiculous. Say bɜɹd out loud and it sounds absolutely insane. Be'rd. Nobody says bɜɹd, it's gotta be bɹd. English spelling treats R as a consonant, but American English functionally treats it like a vowel. If we spelled with R the same way it's pronounced, it would be brd, lrn, teachr, wrking, etc. Not suggesting a spelling reform, because the current system works so well for uniting different accents of English, but it seriously bugs me when people talk about how American R (ɹ) is a consonant. It's not!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Shortcut for writing System of a Down lyrics

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I bet that keyboard feels terrible to type on.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've never seen the F10/F11 buttons being used for calls.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Meanwhile: Å

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Different countries have different languages, alphabets and keyboard layouts. Scandinavian countries keyboards are quite commonly produced together because they share most but not all of the letters, symbols and positions. This looks pretty standard to me.

    Edit: As a user from respective country you learn fast to read automatically the position for shared keys before you learn touch typing or looking for an uncommonly used symbol. The real annoyance is when laptop makers switch up key positions because they think they know better.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    To explain more specifically for those that are, like me, curious but unfamiliar:

    • Top left of each of those keys is the Danish layout
    • Top right is Norwegian
    • Bottom right is Swedish
    • The Å is the same in all three so it can just be by itself
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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    why is there a concerned woozy emoticon key

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