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[–] 217 points 1 year ago (11 children)

There's a good chance the man who ran teenage beauty pageants provided bodies for the rape Island.

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  • [–] 111 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Whoa. I never connected those dots before.

    That's dark, dude.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    . I never connected those dots before.

    HOW?!? I feel like I've lost my goddamn mind. It should be like the first fucking thing you realize when you learn about both things. They're so obviously connected.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Cause it’s something you shouldn’t have to think about?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You shouldn't have to, but you do have to. The world isn't going to fix itself - these things are happening because our country and its people have been slowly influenced over the course of decades specifically not to put up a fuss about it. We need to fight against that conditioning that tells us we deserve to be able to step away and ignore it. We do deserve that, but to allow ourselves that out is to continue allowing these atrocities to happen. We've been pushed into such stressful, overstimulating lives that putting up a fight seems impossible, but we need to fight it even if it means putting our lives on the line.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You shouldn't have to, but you do have to.

    I totally agree. Some people may be slightly slower. We have to educate those people, unfortunately.

    our country

    I’m not sure where you’re from, but this covers several countries.

    Orherwise, I totally agree. People have been worn down through a reduction of workers rights, pay, numerous other rights….its wrong.

    Problem is in the western world you’ve had a press, and now social media, pushing a right wing, and rights narrative. To people like us it’s infuriating.

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  • [–] 123 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Trigger Warning! #Trump #Epstein

    To be clear this YouTube link is the testimony of a victim - Not Ghislaine.

    It is really hard to watch

    She graphically describes what happened:

    Most girls were 13-14

    Trump kept requesting her. He demanded she wear a blonde wig; he said she looked like his daughter who was also 13 at the time

    Trump forcibly took her virginity

    youtu.be/Qk38JAwEUOg

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I'm glad people are finally paying attention, I guess, but none of what has come out has been new. We already knew all of this, it was all reported on, and nobody gave a shit.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    Seems like the media is starting to portray him in a negative light consistently, and that’s causing some supporters to go woke. As you said, none of this information is new. The only difference is the medias portrayal of him. Seems like the owners of the us aren’t liking the direction we’re going.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    It's even worse then giving a shit or not, a huge portion of the people who voted for him identify with the desire to go after a 14 year old girl - they're just limited by circumstance and social pressure. If they had a guaranteed way to come out clean and the funds, they'd be on that island too.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    They seem to give a shit now, so.... Progress?

    I'm disappointed in the reaction-based interest. They finally have a personal reason to dislike the guy, and now, in retaliation, they actually notice all of the sketchy/terrible shit that he's been involved in, or party to....

    Despite my disappointment, I'm just glad things are being seen finally. It's probably way too little, and way too late, since he's currently a sitting president in his second, and hopefully last term, but it's something.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’m guessing Trump’s supporters aren’t as rabid in supporting him because there’s no more elections to win.

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    It’s just another money making endeavor. But they’re open to it, sure.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

    Title gore? Ghislaine survivor?

    Ah okay, I've not been following this part and didn't know who Ghislaine was — I thought she was one of the victims so I thought she was supposed to be the survivor. She's one of the accused. Gotcha. My mistake.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Read commas in headlines as the word "and"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    This headline is proof this newspaper convention is stupid. If they're so keen on holding on to this weird tradition of "saving space" in headlines for a medium in decline (print), just use an "&" symbol. It's much more recognisable, comma has a clearly defined function and they're misusing it.

    Their tradition be damned.

    Just my 2¢

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In news media, titles like "Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell survivor" are meant to be read "Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell survivor". Commas often mean "and" I think to save print space. Pulling that part out of my ass somewhat, but that is still how youre supposed to read it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Indeed, and I personally hate it. "&" Is right there if they want to save space.

    I really dislike when the reason to continue doing something is tradition, and that's what is going on here. It would be so easy to just start using "&" instead of commas, which outside this context are not used this way.

    Get with the times, silly journalists.

    (Just an extra gripe, that journalists are often really shitty at citing. "A report from XYZ organisation says" yes, which one? Y U DO DIS TO ME?)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    How are people this fucking clueless about the myriad sex crimes that our president committed prior to 2016?

    None of this is new. All of this was reported on prior to the 2016 election.

    Unreal.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You didn't guess it, but the other person did: I'm not American 😉👍 Watching the shit show from afar and don't have as much detail in media like you do, and we got all of our own shit to worry about on top of your shit, so. It's a lot. 🤪

    Take care though.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    not everyone here is american though. We don't pay attention to every little court room screening in America; and are sometimes finding out via chat rooms like this one

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It was not all reported prior to 2016 since it was the Miami Heralds reporting in 2018 that brought a lot of things into public eye. It was however all reported prior to the 2024 election.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    14 do you know how innocent nearly all 14 year olds are. It will wake them up to the horrors of the world in a shock fashion as they get older. Insane. Billionaires are sick. We have no need for them.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Oh Trump is fucked now....

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Man committed treason. What's little raping an underage girl going to do to him?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    Ah, but that treason wasn't blatantly obvious.
    I mean, it's not as if he ordered people to surreptitiously take boxes marked top secret. Then order people to delete videos from the server room to cover shit up. And then, when the deleting thing wouldn't work, also order people to flood the server room with swimming pool water where the videos were kept. Then, after all that, just keep the top secret documents in an unlocked room next to a fucking fax machine.

    If he did all that in such an imbecilic bungling three stooges-esque type manner then he'd be arrested by now, surely. And there's absolutely no way that the American people would vote him in again...

    Edit: He's on the Epstein list because he's a kiddie fiddling child rapist AND he's also a convicted rapist of E Jean Carroll.
    Plus there are over twenty known court cases/accusations of him sexually assaulting and raping other women.
    (I like to mention this whenever I can.)

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You say that.... Don't get my hopes up.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    The right-wing propaganda machine will tell the cultists that it's no big deal and they'll adjust their thinking like good little sheep. Donald Trump has never seen an ounce of consequence and until I'm proven otherwise, I won't believe that he ever will.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Let’s make this the most upvoted post on Lemmy ever.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Oh we are not trying to make her out as a victim now.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The headline is confusing, but it is not referring to Ghislaine as a survivor

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    [+] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell survivor testified she met Donald Trump at age 14

    Survivor of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell testified she met Donald Trump at age 14

    Journalism/Editing, how hard could it fucking be

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Your wording make it sounds like the survivor name is Ghislaine Maxwell.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Survivor of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell testified she met Donald Trump at age 14

    Survivor of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell testified she met Donald Trump at age 14

    This is why we have editors, thanks editor

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Imagine how awful it is to be raped That add to that being very young without real world experience or then add to that that it was an ugly orange dude.

    I’m amazed she is strong enough to stop be here. I wouldn’t be

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The whole thing is awful, obviously. And it's a bit grim making a rape tier list. But being 14 and then you get to the creep island so that short haired cunt can teach you how to pleasure old ugly men is a fucking horror show. No matter what happens (or obviously doesn't happen because americans are fucking cowards) to that rapist, it will be too little too late. Even the worst punishment or execution you can think of is all in vein, because he got to live that long not only scott free, no, they made him president... TWICE.

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