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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

"Be lesbian, do crime"

I guess ?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I also wonder how many women go unreported for violence against men.

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  • [–] 153 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    A love for women is the biggest risk factor for violent crime.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Alternatively, the qualities that make you lust after women tend to lead to more violent crimes.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Interesting because there's a very old gay stereotype that they're extremely violent. These days, it's usually that gay men are effeminate and passive, and I think a lot of people don't even realize this stereotype existed.

    Baron Harkonnen and Scar (The Lion King) are examples.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Examples of that older stereotype, you mean?

    I'd never have guessed Scar were gay.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Disney never comes right out and says these things about their cartoons. Ursula is based directly on the drag artist Divine, but you won't catch a Disney executive admitting that.

    But yes, Scar is basically the gay uncle.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Not doubting, but can I read someone's commentary that explains this more?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    https://time.com/6282514/little-mermaid-ursula-drag-queen-divine/

    Ursula is pretty easy to understand, because that’s so 1:1 with Divine and there are direct confirmations.

    With Scar one of the supervising animators, Andreas Deja, is openly gay (now, not at the time because it was the 90s) and has spoken about adding campiness and other gay influence to his work.

    With other examples it’s a bit more difficult, because to understand it you need to understand how the Hays Code affected the portrayal of queer people on screen. The short version is that queer people weren’t allowed to be overtly portrayed at all, so any characters with queer coded behavior (by 30s to 60s standards) wound up as villains. As this becomes more entrenched in media, these mannerisms became shorthand for villain, so by the time the 90s rolls around the people referencing these tropes might not be familiar with their origin.

    For the long version, see the documentary The Celluloid Closet.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    I have done the web search for you. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.removed/2014/11/gender-representation-in-lion-king.html

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    What the heck why is my link being censored?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Out of curiosity, did you copy the link from someone else’s comment on another instance? I’ve literally never seen a Blahaj comment get caught by a censor filter for anything, much less a .com

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Turns out there's a spam filter on blogspot links because spam bots very frequently send links to them

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'mma be honest, I'm struggling to trace your intended source. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.wordpress.com/ doesn't work, WordPress tells me it doesn't exist. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.com/ (which is what your earlier comment implies it should be) doesn't exist in DNS. Google searching for "queeringthenetautumn2014" and for "gender-representation-in-lion-king" and similar turns up nothing useful.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Ah, sorry, it's supposed to be where it says removed.

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  • I hate the datamancer of this chart- if you have 'heterosexual men/women' the other bars should be labelled 'homosexual men/women'

    And listing them alphabetically instead of by grouping or delinquency is also mildly irksome.

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  • [–] 119 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Straight women probably commit way more crime but get away with it more frequently. I know I do. Also where are the bi criminals? Are there none? Did we just solve crime?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Bi people are too emotionally fulfilled to want to crime

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm supposed to be emotionally fulfilled?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah didn't you install the latest updates yet? Since, like, patch 14.7.3, you should have a permanent sense of mild satisfaction.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That’s silly, imagining that people exist on a spectrum. Don’t you know everything in life is black and white, either or, binary?

    The Kinsey scale only contains 0 and 6 for a reason. If there were any numbers between 0 and 6, people might think the world was complex and nuanced or something.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    You see, because bi people are a myth as far as the authorities are concerned, when a crime is committed they’re classified as straight men or lesbian women, but when they don’t commit crime they’re gay men and straight women.

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  • [+] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was about to say the same thing. Women will report violence from women, men are going to be less inclined to.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    And i imagine a lot of gay men have the attitude that if they report intimate partner violence it will come back to hurt them in one way or another.

    I know as a trans woman if I were to report violence from a cis woman I'd likely be reframed as the perpetrator and if I were to report violence from a trans woman it would be framed as "trans woman commits violent crime" and used to hurt me.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    In some contexts there's no doubt you have a point, but liberal western cities I suspect that has no more impact than, say, the tendency of women to underreport domestic and sexual violence. Anyway I would imagine that a bigger factor is criminal perpetrators underreporting their own gayness

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  • [–] 87 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    "Be gay, do crime" is only relevant to women.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    kinda ghoulish to post in a thread full of people sharing their domestic abuse stories

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I'd definitely believe the top two. My oldest sister seems to only date dudes that end up beating her, but my other sister has been put in the hospital by every woman she's dated. I know it's slim pickings, and rural Midwest lesbians have a lot to be mad about, but stop taking it out on each other! There are more deserving targets.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    As a bi trans woman, I've definitely noticed similar trends between straight guys and lesbian women. And for anybody wondering, in my experience, lesbian trans women are equally as abusive as cis lesbian women, and straight trans men equally as predatory as cis straight men.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    more genetics & culture.

    Whatcha trying to say there?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but your initial comment was phrased in such a way as to dog-whistle racist eugenics talking points, in case you're wondering why people are hostile here. As for your last sentence I don't believe genetics works like that, which contributes to why you're giving off vaguely dog-whistle-y vibes.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    hi im from the 196 mod team, i noticed some comments you made break a few of our rules, and we dont support pusdoscience here, please refrain from further comments or we will consider banning you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Hi, phase read the rest of my comments in this thread to understand what I failed to convey in that comment. I wasn't trying to say that certain peoples are inferior. I was asking of there was a family history for such disposition.

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    A school friend of mine was shot in the back of the head by her lesbian lover a year after we graduated high school.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Jesus fucking Christ

    Fatally?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Commit or get convicted of (hint: its impossible to measure crimes commited)

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Assuming this is from the NISVS, it is a self-reported victim survey.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    that would make it quite hard to get reliable information on the perpetrators' actual sexuality orientation outside of situations where the victim personally knows them

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I guess bisexuals do literally 0 crime.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I support the message, but sure would like more info on the y axis: what exactly are 4 points of violent delinquency? How does that compare to 6, or 1?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is there any average differences in hormones between gay and straight people of the same gender?

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Them: "Are you just just going to bend over and take that?!?"

    Me:

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    come on brothers. be gay do crime!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    These are rookie numbers. Come on gays, we can do better.

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