I've heard that's how a lot of wealthy people feel. They want the absolute best for people in their family, and that's about it.

I think it can be difficult to relate to such abstract concepts and consequences that you don't feel directly. After all, it'd be much easier to press on a button that'd kill 10 000 people living 10 000 km away from you than to stab one person to death. Out of sight out of mind.

My point being that I don't think he's indifferent to people that he doesn't know, he's simply not able to process all the ramifications of this particular thing. The effects of data collection and manipulation is quite subtle, after all, like the frog in the slow burning pot

If I'm reading this right, you would basically say that any company that helps government institutions spy on people is awful, is that right?

Just waiting for Thiel to buy Reddit.

half of its already bots, so im not surprised and it usually the propaganda bots keeping up the engagements. Also i heard reddit wants to make thier post/account history mroe private so its harder to discern a bot.

What shady stuff are you talking about may I ask?

Versions of them are here already. Their focus right now is to:

• start violence at protests, especially around LA and target cities like NY, Seattle, Chicago, etc.
• seed doubt in anything related to the republican agendas or what they have done. Usually starts with, "I hate trump like the rest of us, but...." or something like that.
• downvote the shit out of people that call anything like the above out. They'll come in later, one by one, to do this.

They usually congregate over the weekend and during or right after major events (like the protest). Watch for them this weekend or stay away from Lemmy. If you watch for it, downvote them and upvote the people fighting them, but most of all, take what everyone says with a grain of salt.

Facebook.

To add to this.

Retirement homes utilize community activity software. Sometimes this will link to health systems like point click care.

When this software company starts wanting you to upload resident profiles so their ai can populate interests? Yeaaaaah they found a work around for your PPI is what that is.

If it wasn't a rush for data already it reallllly is now.

Scary.

Is there any evidence that Palantir the company aggregates data across contractual boundaries? Everything I've seen indicates the reverse: it's a glorified hosted data storage solution with workflows built on top

Source? I've never heard about pal being used for disinformation

Including Lemmy. Especially Lemmy, since it's so easy to create accounts on different instances, or even host your own.

Yeah there are a lot of reddit-esque comments here acting like they're too smart to be fooled by that.

if you don’t stop upvoting memes and stupid subs

Who says "we're" up voting it? Nobody questions where the upvotes for "PuppyOfTheDay" come from? Once you concede the algorithm is rigged, it's silly to blame the humans for what's on your feed.

Saw a jailbait post/entire community ("fauxbait") pop-up just yesterday. It's like watching it all happen from scratch.

He also considers himself a marxist iirc

Good evidence of astroturfing on Reddit. That Reddit took action and banned the Palantir agents only provides evidence that exposure of the op is the problem. Not evidence that Reddit acts in good faith.

A good question to ask, is what would happen if Lemmy was the victim of astroturfing. It's decentralized for starters and groups might not even reside in the same place on the fediverse. Also I expect Reddit has monitoring, analytics and tools that could flag behaviour rather than somebody having to go through logs trying to find patterns.

I think Lemmy and other federated platforms have escaped having to deal with these issues simply because someone attempting to astroturf will do it on the biggest platform. So Lemmy escapes not by any technical or administrative virtue but by being smallfry.

Put me in my place if this is nonsense but doesn't it make way more sense if the astroturfing is done by WSB goons? I just don't see corporate entities coordinating this kind of thing

Yeah, its like they named themselves intentionally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palant%C3%ADr

The software data-collection company Palantir Technologies was named by its founder, Peter Thiel, after Tolkien's seeing stones.

What kind of ways, can you explain?

10 years at least.

We really should be talking about Rampart.

Anyone not plain vanilla and falling in line, apparently. Unless you're fabulously wealthy or otherwise "useful."

The wholesale takeover of the site by /r/The_Donald posters gaming the algorithm back in 2016 is entirely down the memory hole.

Nobody who still uses the site wants to believe they're being hoodwinked again.

Good thing I switched to .dbzer0.

Or California.

remember worldnews suddenly shifted to israeli control right as the war started.