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RIP Mr Hogan (discuss.online)
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[–] 217 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Dude was also the reason unions in wrestling never went anywhere. So a racist and a fucking union buster sellout. Good riddance.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    How?

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  • [–] 120 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    He ratted out Jesse Ventura to McMahon when Jesse was trying to get his wrestling colleagues to join a union. Source.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    ventura dint do any favors either, basically he said f you guys your on your own if you dint unionize with me, he only said it because had a backup plan, a union with sag-aftra, so it basically abandoned them, dint care about thier potential fall out. the wrestlers dint have much power it at the time, if the other wrestlers were also actors, they wouldve unionize, most of them were scared to do so.

    he also has a history with PETER THIEL too, because thiel bankrolled hogans lawsuit against Gawker, as part of a vendetta for reporting on his business pratices, plus him being gay.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, after Ventura tried to get them to unionize and Hogan messed it all up, Ventura bailed. He was already unionized as an actor before approaching them, but saw the obvious benefits of a union and wanted them to have the same. If he was really their friend, he would’ve fought harder for them to have what he had.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    oh yea, i place some of the blame on ventura too, hes the one who started it, he shouldve finished it instead he just ditched them, he was only able to speak from him position, because already was an actor with sag aftra. he shoulve known a lowly wrestler isnt going to have many negotiating positions in a union formation.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I forgot who was trying to organize the union (Ventura??), but Hogan found out and ran to Vince McMahon.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I know next to nothing about this topic but heard in an interview with Ventura, that Hogan was the only one of that league (or how they call it) who had already signed a fat contract with a higher league and that the unionization would have put that into risk of not proceeding.

    Edit: Found the interview. It was a bit different than I remembered but not much.

    https://youtu.be/nt5mRyIyOzU?t=2947 (at 49:07)

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    • [–] 109 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    He's right, everyone is a little racist. That's what happens when you're raised in a racist society.

    But that shit was really racist

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  • [+] -26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    And it was said privately that somebody filmed. Doesn't make it right but neither is releasing a private tape.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)
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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I just don't understand how private sex tapes get leaked. First of all, do people really regularly film themselves having sex? Also, surely only the couple would have a copy, and surely you'd trust someone before making such a tape, no?

    I'm just amazed each time it happens.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    In most states if you're party to a conversation you have a right to record it and share it with others if you'd like. Federally it's legal too, including phone calls. Some states do restrict recording without informing all parties, but most don't as it's important means of protecting yourself sometimes.

    I emphasized "if you're party" above because it's an important distinction. In many situations you cannot record the conversation of others if you're not an active participant, though there are exceptions for things said/done in public and in/on your property.

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    • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Ozzy dragged Hogan down on his way to Hell to do us all a favor

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Dude pulled nearly $200,000,000 for charity giving his last concert. If he deserves to be hell, Hogan should be elsewhere.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ozzy would be there because it's metal, Hogan would be there to suffer.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Ozzy once played a wise badass in a game about ruling hell, Brütal Legend. This is him now aha

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't put him in hell or it's going to kill the vibe down there. Shove him in heaven with all the other insufferable dicks.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun, darlin' only the good die young.

    (Which, if no one's noticed, is about a guy trying to get in the pants of a Catholic school girl.)

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    • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    if you didn't before, now you know why he was campaigning for mango mussolini

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Rest in Piss

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Remember these things come in threes. Hmmmmmmm... I wonder what other major 80s/90s icons who had reality TV shows come to mind?

    I wonder...

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Didn't we already hit 3? Hogan, Malcom Jamal Warner, and Ozzy.

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    • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I guess we're all a little racist.

    Cope. Racists simply can't imagine that being a hateful bigot makes them a bad person- so they HAVE to pretend that everyone feels that way but we just keep it quiet.

    I had a co-worker who insisted he wasn't racist, but he did hate 'Sand-Nwords'. He said "Everybody hates one group or another". He refused to believe that I hate literally no one in the world because of their race.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Yeah, this is straight up “I have a black friend” and citing the wealthy basketball payer as worthy is “You’re one of the good ones.”

    Bet if questioned publicly he’d have said he’s not racist.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    He tried to walk it back after facing the consequences- who knows if it was genuine or an attempt to salvage his reputation.

    "Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation. It was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it. This is not who I am. I believe very strongly that every person in the world is important and should not be treated differently based on race, gender, orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise. I am disappointed with myself that I used language that is offensive and inconsistent with my own beliefs."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Isn’t it so crazy how these people talking casually among their friends is never “who they are” but them walking it back via a publicist because it hurt them is who they actually are?

    Just sooo crazy! And the one and only time they’re talking like “someone they’re not” someone happens to be recording it and it’s bad for their career! The world sure is a crazy place

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah weird that. The only reason I gave him the slightest benefit of the doubt was because it had been 8 years and people can change a lot in that amount of time. They usually don't, but it's possible. I guess a generic publicist written apology is better than doubling down on your ignorance, but I'm almost certain it was simply to protect 'the brand'.

    It's kind of fitting in a way that he turned out to be a chud. I was never huge into wrestling, but there was a couple of years there between 4 and 6th grade that I would watch it, Hulk was my favorite because he had a positive message and seemed to be a decent guy. His theme song "I am a real American, fight for the rights of every man" resonated with me because I was young enough and ignorant enough to believe in 'America' and that it was founded on everyone being equal. As I got better informed and saw that this country was built upon White Men being equal, and everyone else is treated as a subhuman- I realized that the American Dream was a lie and this country was built upon white supremacy, slavery, and genocide. So to find out ol dude was 'A real American' after all is just icing on the ironic cake.

    Never look up to anyone. Be your own hero.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    it had been 8 years and people can change a lot in that amount of time. They usually don’t, but it’s possible

    If you don't change after 8 years, there's something wrong with you. That's literally long enough to replace most of the cells and atoms in your body, you shouldn't LITERALLY be the same person on a molecular level.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And yet very often people will replace all the atoms and most of the cells in their bodies, and still hold on to ignorant, hateful thinking.

    If only it were a matter of waiting long enough the world would be a paradise by now.

    The brain is like a muscle, you have to use it for it to grow. Unfortunately there's no steroids you can take as a shortcut, you have to put in the work. 💪 🧠

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I can't imagine not using your brain for 8 yea.... remembers there are people who voted for Trump the first time, saw his term, and proceeded to vote for him again despite how Trump handled Covid and how we had to get rid of him to end it.

    Okay you got me

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    sand-nwords? What would that be? A slur for the nomads of the Saharra? Bedouines?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This was a derogatory term for middle easterners that cropped up (to my awareness, anyway, and I don't care to go searching around to fact check myself on this point) in the xenophobia following 9/11.

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    • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Jesus Fucking Christ

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Gawker media died for this post.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    nothing of value was lost back then either, they kept pushing bs clickbait and calling it journualism

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    BS clickbait is annoying, but it shouldn't be made literally illegal.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Gawker was found civilly liable for defamation after publishing details from Hulk Hogan's sex tape. They also published a recording of the quote in the OP, I don't remember if it was from that tape or a separate incident. The size of the judgement against them basically bankrupted the company.

    BS clickbait is, for better or worse, still completely legal.

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    • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Oh no. Anyways.

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I read a few of those replies... holy crap Twitter sucks

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ...Defending the racist?

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    • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I knew he as trash but ... yuck

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    She had two white kids. So, I guess she took this one to heart.

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    While racist, yes, it's funny how money appears to be the bigger issue to him. Sounds like he would be cool with Diddy.

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    [–] [M] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Hey, this is a days old post, stop reporting it and discussing whether or not the use of the n-word is okay or not. That is troll bait and I get why you respond once, but stop after that. The people refuting the word were pretty good under the circumstances, so I'm not locking it yet. If I removed your comment, it's so the troll baiting won't work anymore on anyone else.

    Edit: Stop reporting the actual post, not the comments in it. I'll go over everything. Always report the kind of crap going on inside the comment section. Sorry about that, I missed a lot.

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    [+] -14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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