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[–] 71 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They try to claim he reached for a knife on the floor, the video is pretty clear in the fact that he is no threat and isn't reaching for anything from before the window is broken till after he is dragged out.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In fact, it's very clear his entire intent is to try to make it impossible for them to claim he was reaching for something. And they still claimed it... like, if he had complied and reached to take off his seatbelt, they probably would have shot him...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Making false charges to protect their own ego and fascist oinkery should be a felony, especially since it can and frequently does cause egregious harm such as loss of job, possible loss of relationship, possible loss of children, etc etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Given that nobody even spotted the knife until they had already arrested him and removed him from the scene... I'm pretty sure the knife wasn't there until after the arrest.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Cameras “can only capture what can be seen and heard,” the sheriff added.

    Don't believe your lying eyes.

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  • [–] 95 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    How does having your headlights off on a cloudy day justify forcing a motorist out of their vehicle?

    “Part of that stems from the distance and perspective of the recording cell phone camera,” the sheriff said in a statement, adding that the video did not capture events that occurred before officers decided to arrest McNeil.

    Yeah, because they were still in their car when they decided to arrest him for no reason.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Prior events shouldn't matter. There's zero cause to punch a suspect that isn't an immediate threat.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Someone grab the Family Guy meme so we can show how much of a threat he was.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is why cops in my region have body cams; and "my cam wasn't on" or "my cam broke at just the right time" is a very bad look.

    But they don't use it to make sure they don't mess up: they're using it to show they did everything right, so someone was advised of their rights, the state of everything is known, etc.

    But, not in America. American Cops Are (I'm guessing) Bastards.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Body/Dash cams not being on/conveniently blocked/pointed the wrong way should be criminal offenses warranting at least 5 years in prison.

    because there is zero reason to play games with body/dash cams unless you are planning to do something malicious you dont want evidence of.

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  • [–] 164 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    The sheriff said the cellphone camera footage from inside the car “does not comprehensively capture the circumstances surrounding the incident.”

    Bullshit.

    As always, ACAB.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And they punch like a bitch.

    Lol.

    Guy was calm as could be and bitchcop suckers him for absolutely no reason.

    Guy took it like it was a kiss from bitchcops' mom.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Dude handled it like an absolute champ, but the sad thing is, he knows being black it's his only option. You saw how they treated him for absolutely nothing, now imagine how much they would've escalated had he done a single damn thing more ...

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Which is why I don't understand where the fucking 2025 equivalent to the black Panthers are. This was the whole point, follow cops with guns and make them uncomfortable abusing black citizens.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The CIA took care of that with drugs and gangs.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    reagan did the most damage, he was the reason for amssive gun control in california, he was scared of the black panthers, being the racist he is.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    That'll teach him to... checks notes turn off his headlights in between rain downpours... such a wanton criminal.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Talk about a bunch of dudes with fragile egos getting their feelings hurt because the man has the gaul to question their authority and demand their supervisor. That's such limp dick behavior and is a fucking disgrace. Even if the cops were in the right for pulling him over (not having your headlights on? Really?) that's just ridiculous.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Headlights off at 4pm on an overcast day. Not raining, not even misty. Just overcast.

    People saying the victim deserved it because her didn't act like a "perfect victim" are soft between the ears

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You can clearly see in the video that visibility was not that bad. The video was shot from most likely a screen side camera and not the main camera so it's not like there was a ton it could do to upscale the quality. Even the cops perspective it was mid day at best and shows they were fishing for sure.

    As for folks arguing against this it's just apologists grasping at straws to justify why this man was pulled over on flimsy at best reasons. It started simply so a cop (and then multiple cops) could stroke their authority egos.

    Even if the initial cop that pulled him over was coming from a legit placed of concern he clearly couldn't keep his boy with the wild fists under control so he's just as culpable. Not one of those officers reacted to officer fisticuffs and that's simply not okay.

    Some folks can't seem to grasp the concept that shitty or incompetent people can wind up in a place of authority and that these officers can't be placed upon a pedestal simply due to their position. Actions speak louder than words. Period.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Gall*, Gaul would be the region of Western Europe conquered by Rome (to put it simply).

    I'm sorry, I just used to type it like this too. Carry on.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I was half drunk when I typed that, but even sober me didn't notice the difference. I legit appreciate this and that fact you didn't belittle me means you came from a place of education and I respect the hell out of that.

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  • [+] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Once they're done rounding up all the brown people, I'm guessing black is next.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Lottery ticket and I hope he wins. Then again, it's in the Deregulated Nazi run Florida Oblast.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Is there a video from source not built by one of these Florida cop's retarded nephews?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Cops casually assaulting people for no real reason has become the norm. 30 years ago that would have been a crime.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    30 years ago...? 30 years ago they wouldn't have been on camera doing it, you'd just never know it happened.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    that.. sounds right. I guess 30 years ago I wouldn't have expected to be assaulted by the cops, and now I 100% do. And everyone else in the world sees the US as a very dangerous place to visit now too. Used to be different, but maybe it is just perception of what was always there.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Especially if you POC in certain areas, or even black you have a high chance of getting profiled. even in situations like shoplifting they ignore white people, especially the men, and target POCs preferentially. prior to all the companies having a no-touch policy.

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  • It's crazy because I grew up "knowing that's just how things were". I'm brown and my name has way too many vowels, so I knew to keep my head down when the police might be involved. Then I learned that's not the norm everywhere in the world and my mind was blown.

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  • 30 years ago it would have happened more frequently and simply wouldn’t have been reported on. The BIPOC community has known for generations that cops are oppressors who use violence as their primary form of communication. The advent of phone cameras has simply allowed it to be recorded and broadcast often enough to enter white peoples’ zeitgeist.

    This is nothing new, and 30 years ago nothing would have been done about it. Hell, 60-70 years ago, the cops would have been joined by an angry mob, and the dude would have been lynched just because the crowd wanted some entertainment. The 1950s and ‘60s weren’t that long ago. Trump’s entire generation was born and raised when segregation was still the norm, and Jim Crowism was expected.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It's still a crime. Americans just don't care if cops commit crimes. If they did, they would do something about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I havent tested it out, but I feel like we'd lose in court trying to call any cop assaults a crime. They have qualified immunity-- thats usually just complete immunity.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Lohdear. "In court"? 😅

    Jesus, you guys really are well and truly fucked.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    we know. And no US political party will change anything. Biden increased police funding when it was brought up, and Trump just funneled more of our money to "law enforcement" than most countries spend on their entire defense budgets. We spend 1.5 trillion per year on unaccountable law enforcement thugs now.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I know no one wants to hear this but he was asked multiple times to get out and refused to show ID. They shouldn't have handled it like they did but dude fucked around and found out.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    They were capable of handling the situation without violence.

    Do you really think every citizen who doesn't comply with instructions should be punched in the face? What about people who panic and freeze up? Hard of hearing, or easily confused?

    You are setting dangerous precedent if you tolerate this kind of abuse from law enforcement. Be better.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Of course they could. Did I suggest they couldn't. In case you are unsure about that. No I didn't. I'm not condoning what they did but we all know the way it goes today and the fact that the guy didn't include the footage where he was winding up the cops means that he was trying to hide it and suggest they did it for without any interaction before.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Of course they could. Did I suggest they couldn't.

    You're backpedaling. Stand by your words.

    the guy didn't include the footage where he was winding up the cops

    You didn't read the article? There's no need to provide that footage, it's all cited in the source material.

    Been a pleasure. Have a day.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • Hence the words 'they shouldn't have handled it like they did'

    If I acted like that I would expect a ass whooping. Not because its right or just. Its because its the way things are. It doesn't have to be that way but the only way it will change is if the silent non voting fuckheads get up off their ass and vote. In order for that to happen things will have to get worse before those complacent clueless dipshits figure out what anyone can already see.

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  • [+] -45 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I saw the body cam footage. While they definitely used excessive force when they beat him up, he resisted arrest and was being overall combative. When the cop asked him for his ids he says no and slams the door closed and locks it. (His window was broken so he was communicating by opening the door)

    The cop showed amazing composure by not immediately breaking the window and pulling him out. If that would have happened imo it would have been justified.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    The original intent of the stop was a headlight violation.

    The problem with that is that it wasn't raining, invalidating the reason for the stop.

    From that point forward, the interaction should have immediately stopped. Without PC for the headlight violation, the police had no authority to demand ID. Since they couldn't demand ID, they didn't have a reason to arrest. That invalidates the resisting charge.

    Start to finish this was a crazy interaction and I hope every cop involved has a very happy get lynched in front of their families. :)

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  • [+] -24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I am not arguing that point at all. His rights were 100% violated. But you and everyone else fail to make decisions based on reality.

    Everyone knows police abuse is a problem. Would you rather be right or dead? Instead of complying and filing suit later, he decided to make a bad situation 100x worse. As I said based on his reaction in slamming the door it is 100% reasonable that the officer making the stop would fear for his life. Regardless that the stop was illegal, IN THAT MOMENT, the cop would have been justified in drawing his weapon. Thankfully he didn’t and the young man is alive.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How exactly would an officer fear for his life when a door was slammed specifically to put distance between the victim and the officer?

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  • Yeah, you wont get anywhere with most of these guys. Sure the cops were violent. There is nothing preventing that. These same folks on here saying stupid shit about whether the guy deserved it are not accepting it doesn't matter. Cops get a free pass and until they face any consequences it wont change. They see anything saying the dipshit in the car is somehow at fault and they lose all ability to reason. The people on here complaining the loudest will be the ones complying the most. You can bet they will be smooching those cops taint.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Cameras “can only capture what can be seen and heard,” the sheriff added. “So much context and depth are absent from recorded footage because a camera simply cannot capture what is known to the people depicted in it.”

    "He was totally thinking of doing a terrorism. Trust us!"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If that's the case, you dont do the thing that makes it look like you're a monster. Just like with innocent until proven guilty, the moral thing to do is to be sure we dont harm the innocent. If it even looks like you are, you are over the line. The alternative is a step toward authoritarianism. We decided when we formed this country thats the wrong direction, and these are the correct tradeoffs. Anyone arguing otherwise should not be allowed to fly the American flag, with a blue line or otherwise.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago
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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Really hard to make a resisting claim on someone who is THAT chill after being punched in the face.

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