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[–] 28 points 13 hours ago

Chipping in to say that they already have a great CLI app for Linux. I have it set up to auto-backup the Vaultwarden database on my homelab. Just type jotta-cli add <your folder> and it will be automatically synced!

A GUI app is great for making it accessible to more people, though 😊

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  • [–] 28 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

    Great to see more european services.

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago* (7 children)

    Great to see more european services.

    Norway not being a member of EU, i had to check:

    The General Data Protection Regulation (Regulation (EU) 2016/679), abbreviated GDPR, is a European Union regulation on information privacy in the European Union (EU) and the European Economic Area (EEA).

    👍

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  • [–] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    That's not what they said

    Europe is a continent, EU is an alliance on that continent, not all European services are EU-based

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago*

    like i wrote under another comment, i don't care about Europe but the rights that come with GDPR and EU.
    I wasn't sure, i checked and i learned.
    I shared what i've learned thinking that there would be some others who, like me, wasn't sure about GDPR applicability in Norway.

    yeah, Norway is in Europe! Who cares? Hungary too is in Europe! Georgia too. Some percent of Turkey and Russia too.
    "European services"! Yay!
    Let's celebrate!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    Still a european member, and have GDPR. Just not a member of the EU

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  • [+] -7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    did you even read what i wrote?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah, you're doing the "erm akchually" thing when it doesn't matter.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 hours ago*

    Yeah, you're doing the "erm akchually" thing when it doesn't matter.

    not at all. Exactly like i wrote, i wasn't sure if GDPR was applicable in Norway.
    UK too is in Europe without, now, being in EU. Apparently GDPR is modified for UK.

    Russia too is considered a European state! "yay, European services!" ?
    It's not about "erm actually" and I don't understand why you're so defensive about my first comment.

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  • [–] 21 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

    Dude, their pricing is amazing. I signed up for the free tier to try it out first.

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  • [–] 15 points 13 hours ago* (3 children)

    Dude, their pricing is amazing.

    https://jottacloud.com/en/pricing

    €7.5/month for 1TB seems pretty normal to me. Compared to other GDPR-compliant cloud providers* it's neither cheap nor expensive.

    * Drime, pCloud, Inernxt etc.

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  • [–] 15 points 13 hours ago

    Interesting, anyone familiar with thrir privacy, securityrecord?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago

    I've been using Jottacloud for a little under a year now. I use it for photo backups and much more. It has a lot of really good options been happy with it so far. It's got some quirks still but worth it imo

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  • [–] 5 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

    My 1Tb nextcloud instance cost around 10CAD per month and I get office suite and much more. I don't understand why people and organisation don't use it more. It's gsuite or ms365 on a private server.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago* (3 children)

    My 1Tb nextcloud instance cost around 10CAD per month and I get office suite and much more.

    NextCloud is open source and self-hostable? Why not just cut out the middle man, pay for a cheap desktop computer, turn it into a server and host it yourself?

    I don't understand why people and organisation don't use it more

    I personally didn’t like NextCloud, I felt like for the tools they offered there were better alternatives out there, it also felt like I was bringing work home which is a big no-no.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago*

    Computers require specialized information. Those that have that information are--by nature of capitalism--herded into pens that sell software. For a business a lot of pain and capital could be avoided if its constituents were educated to a satisfactory degree on computers.

    National governments have failed woefully in computer education. What initiatives they had were infiltrated and distorted by for-profit-software which transformed them into classes on how to use their software.

    I do think programming is a required prerequisite to thriving in a modern society. An uncountable amount of hours have been wasted because "the computer said so." To program is as much a requirement as the ability to write was earlier. To be able to utilize a computer without being able to program it is akin to being able to read but not write. There's a fundamental disconnect with software that is exploited for criminal profits.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child)

    What do you like better? Especially if it's not like bringing work home.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    What do you like better? Especially if it's not like bringing work home.

    In the brief time I used it I’ll admit it offers quite a lot of tools in a single service, I never explored all of them but found alternatives to offer more functionality.

    PDF Editor? BentoPDF

    Calendar? Well there are plethora’s of WebDAV softwares out there; SabreDAV, Davis, Milton.

    Text and or calls? Well lately I’ve converted majority of my chats to Matrix using my own home server and using Sable as my client, I much prefer the transparency with encryption keys.


    If you want everything in one place sure NextCloud is certainly the route, however as I mentioned in my previous comment it felt like i was at work when I was at home, it didn’t fit the need for me and was considered wasted resources on my server.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 hours ago

    Has anyone used this vs something like filen, which is a German company?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago (18 children)

    I'd like to ask people who use cloud storage what exactly you use it for. I've never understood the appeal. I barely use half the storage on my devices and for backups I just have an external drive. Syncing things can be done p2p via something like syncthing. So what is the actual use case for a centralized paid cloud service?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    The biggest plus (for me) is "access anywhere". If you've ever needed a document in a hurry, it becomes easier to understand.

    I self-host nextcloud on a vps for this and other solutions.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (1 child)

    Well I guess maybe its work related stuff then? I don't work in the officey/white collar sector so maybe that's why I don't get it.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Not a diehard fan or heavy user of it anymore but it is, frankly, weird you'd even need to ask.

    • It's available where ever you have a connection. You can't forget it or not realize you would need it. It's just always available.
    • It's off site if something happens at home.
    • Assuming you trust them, your data is safe. It's not going to fail. It's managed by someone paid to keep data safe for you. Economies of scale let them have more redundancy and verification than you. No stray atomic partical is going to flip a bit while it is on their servers.
    • You can be lazy about it. I keep a working NAS, an older, slower NAS I back up that NAS to, and gave family offsite another NAS that I also back up to. I have many backup tasks and don't rely on cloud storage. However, I need to, at least on occasion, make sure everything is still working... or I can fuck something up if I don't property document or pay attention when doing anything major. Wouldn't need to worry about that if I just used the cloud.
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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago

    I guess I'm just not like super plugged in? Like your point about it being available anywhere. I keep my mp3s synced between my laptop and desktop so I can listen to music from both but I don't use it outside the house. In the car I have little sd cards that have music in them that I plug in. And the radio. Mostly when I'm out and about I don't need the internet or anything I have stored on my computers. What is it that you need access to all the time? As for data backups the only thing I really NEED to have is my passwords and I don't trust the cloud with that. I do backup like my music library and stuff too but I just put it on an external drive. If I was paranoid about like losing it because my house burned down or something I would just stick a copy of those drives into a safety deposit box for cold storage. I'm genuinely curious what things you keep in the cloud that you need access to on the fly like that.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

    Sharing things with others and off-site backups.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (3 children)

    What do you share with people?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (2 children)

    That would be an extremely broad answer. Sometimes I just gotta send files to people. Especially in cases where E-mail would be a poor choice (e.g. large files), or where I'd need them to be able to write them as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Fair enough. Is this for a work thing? Maybe I'm just a luddite. I never find myself needing to do anything like that.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago

    Personally I send PDFs of rules and stuff to friends for RPG games all the time. Also things like recipes, just general home making stuff, or the odd collaborative project where I need like 5 people to be able to access a document so we can compile information. None of that work related, idk maybe it’s a community thing more than anything else some communities just do more and need to share and make files than others.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Because it’s easy. If you trust the service and they have backup functionality, you don’t have to do anything, other than install and sign in. All files synced and “backed up”. No need for an external hard drive. No need to remember to backup. Skate files with others easily.

    Sure, you can achieve the same by other cheaper means, but then you have to spend the time doing it. And that’s just for the people that knows what they are doing.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child)

    I have my nextcloud instance that back up my important files from phone and computers. I also work with petty heavy audio and video sessions that I need to share and be able to access from other computers. The nextcloud sever makes things so much easier for us. The minute I change something and save it in a audio session, these changes will reflect on other computers accessing the project. That's on top of when I need to share to files to random people, or work on share document in real time with others.I guess not everyone needs these features, but it was a game changer for me so having this services on my own server is actually great.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (1 child)

    Syncthing is a PITA to set up, especially if you want to exclude certain files from syncing to all devices in your "pool". It's super cool, don't get me wrong, but it's not easy to configure.

    For my use case, Seafile is much better. I host it in house and everything I sync goes to the server, then I can choose what I want downloaded to any other device or just grab files as neccessary. I use it backup documents and downloads on each client (Android, Linux desktop, and Macbook). Then if I need a file that I had downloaded to my laptop, but it's not in reach I can use my phone to pull JUST that file easily.

    NOTE: Some people do not like Seafile because it stores data on the server in git-like chunks rather than flat files. I have my own way to manage that so I'm not worried. It's also a Chinese owned company. But I don't pay them, I host it at home, and it has not telemetry or internet access

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    I might switch from Mega if it becomes a nix package. They already have CLI as a nix package so here's hoping for the app as well.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 hours ago*

    What's stopping Jottacloud from becoming Dropbox, or something else related.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 hours ago

    Use Nextcloud

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  • 8 comments in c/news@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show view that post
    [–] 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    Will the Linux version expose your files at the filesystem level, or just through an Electron GUI or similar? A proper Linux integration, IMHO, should let you run shell commands and scripts on the files as if they were local.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 hours ago

    They’re also a great replacement for Backblaze.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    I find it worrying that they've existed since 2008 but haven't gotten around to supporting linux until now, 19 years later..

    No thanks

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago

    What a strange comment.. Do you only use software that was specifically made for Linux first?

    Linux has gotten a lot more traction last couple of years so it makes sense. Why wouldnt they focus on the platform the majority of people are primarily using?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    Anybody reaching for their credit cards to sign up should just be aware that Jotta has an "AI" "feature" in their web UI. I splurged on a year's subscription before I realised.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago

    Isn't it completely optional? I remember it being an opt in.

    It also has support to open word documents in office 365 but it warns if you try to use it that it will transfer your document to Microsoft to be able to open it, so I think they care about privacy enough.

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