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[–] 19 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm using a combo of mailbox.org and Addy.io for aliasing. Works great.

I pointed all 13 of my various emails to a forward@mydomain email on Addy. Put a rule on mailbox.org to throw those emails in a folder called "change me", and ive been going through daily and changing or deleting or unsubscribing from everything that hits that box.

It feels nice only having one email again but also having the ability to make and turn off email aliases to stop junk and spam.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago

    Mailbox.org used to be in a distant third third place after recommendations for Proton and Tuta. Glad to see it's top of the pile a lot of the time now.

    I've been using it for years. It's cheap and has a lot more going on than just email. Mailbox took me a long way into my degoogling.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 hours ago

    Now that you are posting this on the fediverse community.

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    If your goal is not spamming then this is not needed.

    The instance is already visible, and we are already viewing the original post as this is not a crosspost, and the federation button already provides a way for people to view the post as your instance serves it.

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    [–] 11 points 6 hours ago

    Literally anything? Except maybe Outlook?

    • mailbox.org
    • disroot
    • postsnap.de
    • Tuta
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  • [–] 8 points 10 hours ago

    Infomaniak.

    No E2EE but not Big Tech (yet long-standing, since 90s), more generous free tier than Gmail (20GB for e-mail and 15GB for files), and its office suite may work better than Google Docs.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 hours ago

    I've been using Posteo for a while now, no complaints.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    Almost anything that's not owned by big corporations. Tutanota for example.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    I'd have to go against Tuta, as they've been called out numerous times for posting outright lies about their competition on social media. They fabricated a chainmail-style "announcement" from Google announcing a Gmail shutdown date, saying that you should move to Tuta mail. I called them out on this, and they deleted the post shortly after, saying that they "didn't fact-check the lead that was sent to them", even though their post was the earliest existing copy of that fake announcement I could find, suggesting that they created the fake document, themselves.

    If they're willing to lie about something so banal, they're willing to lie about something important. I don't trust them, and I certainly won't give them my money.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 hours ago* (2 children)

    They've become very political, siding with the far right, actively ignoring community concerns (see the recent petition deletions) and still, while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. It's been long a concern among the funny hat communities that they are a possible honeypot as well.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 hours ago

    while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata.

    No email provider encrypts headers nor metadata but Tuta. And even Tuta does not encrypt mail addresses nor date of message sent or received - as these are necessary to deliver a mail at all.

    To avoid metadata use e.g. Signal instead of e-mail.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

    You're really going to recommend Gmail over Proton? Let's keep it sane here...

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  • [–] 7 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    “As an alternative to Gmail” is the start of the whole thing, it’s assumed they’re moving away from Gmail

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Outlook is better than Proton?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago*

    I use mailbox.org for email, calendar, tasks.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago

    I made the migration over to Fastmail recently and have been very happy with it. Good engineering culture, security conscious, has all the features I'd expect, no nonsense.

    Would recommend it!

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago

    Fastmail.com is what I moved to.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago

    at work we use electric embers. its a coop. you have to have a domain tho, more of a group solution.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago (7 children)

    Proton mail. It's the only one I've managed to switch to successfully

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  • [–] 7 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    What's the point of proton mail? You don't own the keys, you are stuck with their app because they don't support open protocols, they basically lock you in because of no open protocols, and it's run by a fascist asshole. Basically any mail provider with encryption on arrival with your own public key is a better alternative.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    You can have open protocols or you can have encryption. You can't have both. Or alternatively you can use the mail bridge they provide.

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  • [–] 2 points 52 minutes ago

    Most emails will arrive unencrypted on proton and will leave unencrypted.

    Lots of mail providers support GPG encrypting emails on arrival which is functionally the same as what proton does, with the exception their software never sees your private key.

    And with open protocols you can make also send encrypted emails if both sides care about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    I've been happy with Infomaniak

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    I’d choose Proton Mail as a simple alternative. Fastmail is also a good option if you value compatibility with different email apps.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    I'd still use proton over gmail in a lesser than two evil situation. In fact I'm still using it. I just migrated over before the recent news about the head of proton. I'm sure I'll switch eventually...probably why I clicked in this thread. Ehem...carry on.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    better is a relative term.

    what particular do you want in your email provider?

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  • [–] -2 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    Thundermail is gonna be the best

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