▲ 34 ▼ Name a better alternative to Gmail (media.normals.me) submitted 14 hours ago by baldur@normals.me to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 44 comments fedilink hide all child comments #gmail #GmailAlternative #EU Posted on Normals.me · View the original post
[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (10 children) Anything but Proton permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] baldur@normals.me [S] 5 points 13 hours ago (4 children) Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago Telling their employees to use more AI. Telling their employees not using AI is loser thinking. https://www.zdnet.com/tech/can-you-still-trust-proton/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (2 children) They've become very political, siding with the far right, actively ignoring community concerns (see the recent petition deletions) and still, while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. It's been long a concern among the funny hat communities that they are a possible honeypot as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kierunkowy74@piefed.zip 11 points 13 hours ago while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. No email provider encrypts headers nor metadata but Tuta. And even Tuta does not encrypt mail addresses nor date of message sent or received - as these are necessary to deliver a mail at all. To avoid metadata use e.g. Signal instead of e-mail. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago Is it better than gmail? Be honest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 9 hours ago (4 children) You're really going to recommend Gmail over Proton? Let's keep it sane here... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children) “As an alternative to Gmail” is the start of the whole thing, it’s assumed they’re moving away from Gmail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children) Outlook is better than Proton? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Outlook is not an email provider. That's twice you've said that. Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago WTF are you talking about? Outlook is exclusively an email provider? Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baldur@normals.me [S] 5 points 13 hours ago (4 children) Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago Telling their employees to use more AI. Telling their employees not using AI is loser thinking. https://www.zdnet.com/tech/can-you-still-trust-proton/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (2 children) They've become very political, siding with the far right, actively ignoring community concerns (see the recent petition deletions) and still, while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. It's been long a concern among the funny hat communities that they are a possible honeypot as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kierunkowy74@piefed.zip 11 points 13 hours ago while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. No email provider encrypts headers nor metadata but Tuta. And even Tuta does not encrypt mail addresses nor date of message sent or received - as these are necessary to deliver a mail at all. To avoid metadata use e.g. Signal instead of e-mail. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago Is it better than gmail? Be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago Telling their employees to use more AI. Telling their employees not using AI is loser thinking. https://www.zdnet.com/tech/can-you-still-trust-proton/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (2 children) They've become very political, siding with the far right, actively ignoring community concerns (see the recent petition deletions) and still, while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. It's been long a concern among the funny hat communities that they are a possible honeypot as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kierunkowy74@piefed.zip 11 points 13 hours ago while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. No email provider encrypts headers nor metadata but Tuta. And even Tuta does not encrypt mail addresses nor date of message sent or received - as these are necessary to deliver a mail at all. To avoid metadata use e.g. Signal instead of e-mail. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago Is it better than gmail? Be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kierunkowy74@piefed.zip 11 points 13 hours ago while they E2EE your email contents, they do not encrypt headers and a lot of other metadata. No email provider encrypts headers nor metadata but Tuta. And even Tuta does not encrypt mail addresses nor date of message sent or received - as these are necessary to deliver a mail at all. To avoid metadata use e.g. Signal instead of e-mail. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago Is it better than gmail? Be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 9 hours ago (4 children) You're really going to recommend Gmail over Proton? Let's keep it sane here... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children) “As an alternative to Gmail” is the start of the whole thing, it’s assumed they’re moving away from Gmail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children) Outlook is better than Proton? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Outlook is not an email provider. That's twice you've said that. Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago WTF are you talking about? Outlook is exclusively an email provider? Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children) “As an alternative to Gmail” is the start of the whole thing, it’s assumed they’re moving away from Gmail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children) Outlook is better than Proton? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Outlook is not an email provider. That's twice you've said that. Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago WTF are you talking about? Outlook is exclusively an email provider? Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children) Outlook is better than Proton? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Outlook is not an email provider. That's twice you've said that. Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago WTF are you talking about? Outlook is exclusively an email provider? Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) Outlook is not an email provider. That's twice you've said that. Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago WTF are you talking about? Outlook is exclusively an email provider? Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago WTF are you talking about? Outlook is exclusively an email provider? Are you sure you want in this conversation? permalink fedilink source parent