cross-posted from: https://reddthat.com/post/76492244

Degoogle setup part 3

Previous part: https://vger.to/lemmy.world/post/54095201

(Changelog at the bottom)

Universal prefernces:

  1. Lightweight
  2. FOSS
  3. Resource-effeciency
  4. No or human-checked vibecoding

Nice-to-have but non-garenteed features:

  1. Eco-friendly (by using the money for environmental purposes DIRECTLY)
  2. Decentralized
  3. Complete independence from original service. Use frontend or client if possible
  4. Self-hostable
  5. Offline-capable
  6. Not hosted on Github (eww Microslop product)
  7. Hardware sustainability

Avoiding alternative software developers (or companies/cooperations):

  • Proton
  • Mullvad
  • Tuta
  • Mozzila
  • Signal
  • FUTO

De-Boogle

Boogle Search:

  1. SearxNG
  2. Marginalia
  3. YaCy

Boogle Chrome:

  1. FREE Browser (Obscure)
  2. Librewolf
  3. Tor Browser

Boogle Mail:

  • Service provider - Custom domain, Thundermail
  • Client:
  1. FairEmail
  2. TutaNota
  3. Thunderbird

Boogle Maps:

  • Modified PWA - Gmaps WV
  • Map data - OpenStreetMaps
  • Public transportation data - Transitious
  • Navigation client - CoMaps

Boogle Gemini:

  1. Duck.ai
  2. Ollama

Boogle Play:

  • Repo:
  1. F-Droid
  2. IzzyOnDroid
  3. Obtainium
  • Client - Aurora Store
  • Client for repos:
  1. Droid-ify
  2. ObtainX

YouTube:

  • Platform:
  1. PeerTube
  2. Odysee
  • Frontend - Invidious
  • Frontend instance:
  1. materialio.us
  2. ytchocolatemoo.com
  3. Self-hosted
  • Client:
  1. FreeTube
  2. PlasmaTube

Boogle messages:

  1. Fossify Messager
  2. NovaDial

Boogle My Files:

  1. Fossify File Manager

VirusTotal

  1. Veto
  2. Hypatia

Android - GrapeheneOS

Android Auto - Phone stand for car

De-Microslop

Windows:

  1. CachyOS
  2. Linux Mint

Office (or "Microslop Copilot 365"):

  1. MA Office
  2. LibreOffice
  3. OnlyOffice

De-Meta

Facebook and instagram:

  • Platform - Mastodon
  • Client for platform - Smither

WhatsApp - SimpleX Chat

De-ByteDance:

TikTok - Loops

CapCut:

  1. LibreCuts
  2. Kdenlive
  3. Shotcut

Hypic (photo editor):

  1. Pocket Paint
  2. Pinta
  3. Inkscape
  4. GIMP

Gaming

  • Minecraft:
  1. Luanti + Mineclonia
  2. Cubys
  • Universe Sandbox - Cosmogon

  • Space Engine - Celestia

  • Territorial.io - OpenFront

  • Tetris - Block Drop

  • Wordle - Code Word

  • Friday Night Funkin - Etterna

  • Geoguessr - GeoGuessLite

General internet:

Domain name system:

  1. Adguard DNS
  2. NextDNS
  3. Quad9

Network tunnels:

  1. Manual Wireguard VPN tunnel
  2. Manual OpenVPN tunnel
  3. Tor Network

Proxy:

  1. HTTPS Proxy
  2. SOCKS5 Proxy
  3. Orbot

(not really related for De-googling or opensource but mpreso for de-bloating) File types and codecs (wheneber possible):

.png/.JPEG:

  1. .webp
  2. jxl

.exc:

  1. .ods

.mp4:

  1. .webm
  2. .VP9

.mp3:

  1. .OPUS
  2. .m4a

Other:

Reddit:

  • Platform - Lemmy
  • Platform instance - reddthat.com
  • Platform client - Voyager
  • Frontend - Redlib
  • Frontend instance:
  1. saferreddit.com
  2. self-hosted

SearxNG search rssult sources:

  1. DuckDuckGo
  2. Brave
  3. Qwant
  4. StartPage
  5. Ecosia
  6. Mojeek
  7. GOOD

Github:

  • Repo:
  1. Gitlab
  2. Codeberg
  • Frontend - Gothub (no chosen instance yet)
  • Client - Octolab (Gitlab-only)

New additions:

  1. Privacy Flip
  2. Shizuku
  3. Canta
  4. EnforceDoze
  5. SaverTuner
  6. Wine
  7. Virtual Box
  8. Librefind
  9. sustysubs.net
  10. Yagni Launcher
  11. LTE Cleaner
  12. SquirrelDisk

Main sources of help:

  1. YouTube videos and comments
  2. Lemmy comments and posts
  3. Reddit comments and posts
  4. sustysubs.net
  5. Librefind
  6. Possibly PeerTube in the future

Useless reccomendations for me:

  • Termux

On the sidelines of comsideration:

  • WizeStream (NewPipe fork)
  • Flow (YouTube client)
  • Skylib (Bluesky frontend, unlikely to actaully use)
  • YT-dlp

Could use reccomendations for:

  • Linux file manager
  • Linux non-cloud-based photo gallery
  • Linux malware scanner
  • Long-term Linux distro if I find my beginner-friendly distros a bit pale in the future

Remaining questions:

  • If you tested or use QubesOS, how's the experience?
  • Do you use a non-Linux-based FOSS operating system (like ReactOS)? If so, how's the experience?
  • If you used SailfishOS, PostMarketOS (or NuraOS) alongside GrapheneOS in your lufe, how's the experience?
  • Any alternatives I missed?
  • Any other software categories I missed?
  • Any other new additions that I missed?

Changelog (NOT TOO IMPORTANT):

(Somewhat) Important changes

  • Added "No or human-checked vibecoding" to Universal preferences
  • Added "Not hosted on Github" and "Hardware sustainability" to "Nice-to-have but non garanteed features"
  • Added note to "Eco-friendly" (Nice-to-have but non-garanteed featueres)
  • Added "Signal" to "Avoiding alternative software developers"
  • Replaced "Posteo" with "TutaNota" in Email clients
  • Added "Public transportation data" with "Transitious" as the service
  • Added "Odysee" as a new altermative platform to YouTube
  • Replaced "Nobara" with "Linux Mint" as an alternative to Windows
  • Added "Shotcut" as an alternative to CapCut
  • Replaced "Galaxy Engine" with "Cosmogon" as an alternative to Universe Sandbox
  • Added "Geoguessr" with "GeoguessLite" as the alternative
  • Added "reddthat.com" as Lemmy instance
  • Added "Voyager" as Lemmy client
  • Added "SearxNG search results sources" with DuckDuckGo, Brave, Startpage, Qwant, Ecosia, Mojeek and GOOD
  • Added "Octolab" as Gitlab client
  • Added "Squirreldisk" as a new addition
  • Added "Main sources of help" with YouTube, Lemmy, Reddit, sustysubs.net, Librefind, and PeerTube
  • Added "YT-dlp" on the sidelines of consideration
  • Added "Linux malware scanner" to "Could use reccomendations for
  • Asked about the SailfishOS and PostmarketOS (or NuraOS) experience

Changes you might notbcare about:

  • Added changelog
  • Added link to the previous part
  • Added thumnail
  • Updated format

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[–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why we avoiding Signal? Is it because it's from the US? What's a good non self hosted alternative?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    Its a good option but it's centralized, and the phone number thing is disappointing. SimpleX, Session, Briar, Cwtch, are good alternatives. But I get that Signal has most features that i.e. Whatsapp has.

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  • [–] 2 points 20 hours ago (11 children)

    Pi-hole, I do not see you mentioning pihole, adguard home, or some other whole home ad/tracker blocker (I could be wrong but I do not count your DNS section in this). Install unbound and setup DoT with your pihole.

    OpenWRT you mention network tunnels but you do not mention a hardware firewall, I would suggest a Flint 2 with a vanilla install of OpenWRT (do not use their custom firmware when you can make sure nothing is watching), than you can setup ways to VPN into your home and enjoy all your services away from home. As I understand it you can use things like duckdns or simular services to VPN without a static IP, but I would suggest getting a static IP.

    With your firewall and a domain name that has HTTPS you can use Caddy to share services with friends and family, if they are or are not on your LAN or VPN. Or you can use Caddy to keep things simple for you to remember services, not by port numbers but by domain name.

    For maps I am using tileserver-gl, haven’t really tested it much yet but I also run buslive on there so I can track all the buses running in my city. I entend on spending this weekend making my trip planning better.

    I know you want to stay away from github but that is still where services are, I would love to get away from it as well but it is hard.

    I am unsure of what you mean by Linux file manager, are you talking something like nextcloud (self hosted) to host files, or samba to share files accross your LAN to non linux things? Or scp and rsync to other Linux things; I currently use all 4 but want to get away from samba, I gave up on nextcloud when it was failing to do all the things it promised but now that I have other services doing those things good I am coming back to Nextcloud.

    I have never thought about using a Linux maliware detector but I have ClamAV running on one of my systems, I should check out suggestions for my other ones and firewall. On this topic please for the love of Glob tell me you are not using port 22 for ssh! I have Crowdsec running and bots get trapped in a pi zero on a special honey pot vLAN, the only vLAN that uses port 22.

    I do not know much about wine, but as I understand it there is also bottles for running Windows apps. I was never a windows girl I thought I thought different and used Mac OS. I have tried portainer for application stuff but ended up deciding Docker was the way.

    Not Linux specifically but FOSS and self hosted immich for all your photos.

    I started turning to the penguin side when I started using pihole, I started getting pi’s doing different things replacing all Apple services I was no longer using so I used raspberry piOS which is a fork of Debian. When I decided I needed sometheing with a little power I found an old 2014 Mac mini, downloaded all my iTunes music than got refit working and I had a choice either Ubuntu or Debian, Ubuntu was the newest fork of Debian I would go but if that was my hard line why not just stick with Debian so I use Debian headless (most of the time). I will hopefully be getting a hand me down 2018 Mac mini which I will install Debian on as my media centre computer.

    RED FLAG You do not mention password managers, I hope you are not one of those people who uses the same password for everything. When the boycott the US thing started I went to proton to replace my apple passwords and my hide my email stuff but than the CEO went and bent down for Trump, so I upgraded my package with my domain host and got unlimited email addresses and installed vaultwarden on one of my pi’s so my devices could sync with bitwarden so I have a selfhosted password manager. I would later change my host to one that offers a wildcard option for email.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    For file manager I just want a file manager. No cloud, something like Microslop's file explorer without the bloat

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago

    So like the GUI? I personally just use whatever comes stock with the distro I am running (again usually a Debian fork), if there are services I do not like or need in the Desktop environment I remove them. Now the window manager I have never tried anything other than whatever the stock is, I however also run a few headless systems.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

    Chill with the password managers. I sometimes forget to mention certain things. I plan to use KeePassXC and KeePassDX

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (3 children)

    I had to look up keepass I knew I heard of it before but there where reasons I did not go with it, syncing does not happen automatically, without other services and it is unclear to me that if you make a password on one device and than another on another device which new password gets saved when whatever you use syncs later.

    Vaultwarden is the true thing to use, you selfhost vaultwarden and you get to use all the premium features of bitwarden and the syncing all happens in vaultwarden.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    I personally will take the no-sync incovenience as I won't even use the same account across devices

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child)

    So you will have to make the same password across multiple devices each and every time? Vaultwarden is self hosted so it can only sync when you are connected to it, I have it running on a pi5. Sure I could expose it to the WAN with my domain name, but I keep it locked behind my VPN and firewall.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    For a photos app please suggest a non-cloud-based app

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (1 child)

    Immich is not cloud based, you self host it I have never paid anything for it and the only time my photos are on the web are when I put them there, they are traveling through my encrypted VPN tunnel back to my LAN, or when I am sending an encrypted backup to my VPS.

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  • [–] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    Consider dropping the ai and getting yourself a spell checker.

    If you are going to post a list this long, it would be handy if it included some level of detail, especially re: the ones you are avoiding.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 day ago

    No, this post is NOT written by AI

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago (7 children)

    Why is termux useless to you, exactly?

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

    I am NOT and WILL NEVER running Linux on my phone

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago (4 children)

    Are you an IPhone user? Because otherwise I may have some shocking news for you about Android...

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 hours ago (3 children)

    Yeah yeah, Android is based on Linux, I meant by the Linux desktop emvironment

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago (2 children)

    Sweet, so since android is Linux. Termux is not a desktop environment. It's a terminal that let's you access "Linux" tools that are baked into android already.

    I use Void Linux BTW.

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