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[–] 13 points 1 day ago (1 child)

The guy that's on video 30 miles away at the time of the shooting?

The shooting where police released an AI generated security cam video to 'prove' the shooter did hardcore parkour across roofs while repeatedly shoving a rifle that has never been found in and out of his pants, while allegedly having a different deconstructed rifle in his pants, which he later perfectly put back together and gingerly placed in the woods not too far from the shooting for no apparent reason?

Hopefully whoever made Luigi the deal he took to take the fall doesn't make it to Robinson; I'd love to see prosecutors go in front of a jury and explain how this guy that teleports and rebuilds and disassembles rifles instantly while doing parkour has let a jail keep him locked up this long.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago

    The plea deal was (realistically speaking) actually a very smart move for Luigi. At the federal level, most serious charges got dismissed. He ended up pleading guilty to a couple counts of stalking. That leaves state changes, which they may be able to get dismissed due to double jeopardy issues.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Is he free until then? Or are his constitutional rights being violated?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    So is he going to be charged for assisting suicide or what? At least it's must be a redeeming factor that Charlie Kirk was begging for it.

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    Just in the neck of time

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  • [–] 47 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    It's funny how he mostly disappeared from the public eye after getting arrested. It's as if he was less convenient as a scapegoat given his right-wing beliefs

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I don't think the state has great evidence to convince anyone it's actually him either. In discovery, they've only shown blurry photos of someone sorta looking like Tyler but in two different sets of clothes, the timeline is something wacky, the rifle doesn't exist in the photos allegedly of Tyler, ballistics don't match exit wound to caliber of rifle found. So it seems like they'll just bury it till 2028 and use him to boost voter turnout.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago

    Ballistic science isn't actually that great, so that's not surprising. The thing they really have on him is the confession, so that'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    They told the conservative subs that he was a die hard left winger, and then told the leftist spaces that he was a groyper. Then they basically hid him for a year.

    There is something going on and it's 100% not because of his right wing beliefs. As far as I can tell, he was dating a trans girl and his family explicitly said he hated Charlie Kirk. I haven't seen anything pointing to him being right wing other than being raised in a right wing household.

    I personally don't even think he did it.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago

    True yeah. It's extremely strange when put next to the treatment of Luigi. You'd think they'd go even crazier making an example of someone who killed their Conservative lord and savior compared to a random insurance CEO

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Yeah is nuts also what happened to getting speedy and just trail 2028 that bullshit. Definitely going use him as the left wing boogyman for their presidential run. After all Kirk was being groomed for his own presidential run if I heard sources correctly.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 hours ago*

    being right wing, dispel the illusions that is a left winger doing it, it doesnt create good sound bites fox news, they were trying very hard to make him a leftist maniac. and also trying to not connect the dots that it was fuentes influencing it, and right wing on right wing violence.

    plus they dont want it to make it seem like all mass shooters/ shooters are right wing nutties, which they are.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    From the 6th Amendment:

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial

    Not than anyone cares since this is routinely overlooked in our "justice" system.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    Nah, Robinson is a groyper who thought charlie wasnt right wing enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (8 children)

    Not according to his mum or his roommate ... but I'm sure you'll provide a source anytime now.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    What did the roommate dispute in the Wikipedia page you linked? I don't see anything significant there. The grouper link is related to the inscriptions on the bullet casings, "hey fascist, catch" Nick Fuentes commonly referred to Kirk as being a fascist. "Owo checks bulge" is another groyper term "Bella ciao" anti fascist anthem was used by groypers in their campaign against Kirk.

    This is the strongest evidence we currently have for his beliefs and motivations. On the balance of probability I think it's safe to say he was a groyper type, unless you have any other evidence or explanation for this.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/notices-bulge-owo-whats-this

    So Owo checks bulge is mostly furry culture, I can't find anything on Nick Fuentes using it other than a mountain of articles post shooting. If you have a source before that, I'm interested in reading it.

    The rest is either memes that aren't really right wing related or stuff that is simply anti fascist. The Bella Chow songs seems to be only associated with Nick Fuentes because it appeared on a playlist with his name on it once?

    Idk, the whole thing stinks and seems really forced. The alt right doesn't own helldivers and anti fascist songs and catches phrases. The whole thing seems silly the moment you start actually looking into it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    The owo checks bulge is related to groypers and an activity called "transvestigating".

    The Bella ciao on the Fuentes playlist was related specifically to Charlie Kirk.

    It isn't forced in the context of Fuentes repeatedly referring to Kirk as a fascist, I can't think of any other context where all of this makes sense other than groyper culture where it all fits nicely.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    When the roommate asked why Robinson had done it, he answered, "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out."

    This doesn't really support the notion of him thinking Charlie wasn't right wing enough. Especially not when paired with the mom's statement of him becoming more pro-gay and pro-trans.

    edit: not really sure what groyper is, but you say yourself it's anti-fascist, so how is that right-wing?

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    Alright, I think I got the gist.

    So what's the connection to the alleged shooter? Just the slogan on the bullets? That just sounds like some edgy teen shit, but I find it hard to believe that the alleged shooter shared many views with this Nick Fuentes guy.

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  • [–] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    hes with NICK fuentes, fuentes immediately tried to distance himself from kirk the moment the shooting happen.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 minutes ago

    You mean self avowed literal nazi Nick Fuentes spent years talking about how Kirk isnt right wing enough and he's bought out by (insert right wing dogwistle for TeH jOoZ here) and one of his fans took the shot at him and he scramble to distance himself from that to avoid being held liable?

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