Stolen from 4chan. What do you think?

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[–] 125 points 1 day ago (7 children)

For me, this is evidence that I am navigating to a page that I don't need to navigate to.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Yeah I'd rather just load a different page.

    Not disabling my adblocker for any reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago

    Honestly on ublock for most websites it’s pretty easy to just delete the “turn off your adblocker” popup. Some websites genuinely won’t work with an adblocker on though unfortunately.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Or it's time to check the way back machine or archive.is

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago

    Sadly, all of the small shops in my country for electronics and hobby stuff all have these pages (you don't need to disable your adblocker for cloudflare challenges) because of AI. They didn't have them a year and a half ago.

    Ai companies have been DDOSing all small websites so badly that they have to use this (or Anubis) in order to actually have a usable website for actual humans.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    True about Javascript since almost all webpages nowadays use it and all use cloudflare as well. But since when does the Cloudflare verification need you to disable adblocker? It never happens with me. I am using Ublock Origins.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago

    It doesn't. Some webpages have redirects that instruct you to enable javascript, disable ad blockers and disable vpn. But that makes the 'joke' fall flat.

    I wonder if anyone even disables ad blockers when they see the actual message because even if I might enable js, I've never, not once, disabled ad blocker or vpn at a website's behest.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 day ago

    They're both the same picture.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    You fail checks with an adblocker? I have never had that happen with Ublock origin or Adnausium.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    No no. I think what this prompt is doing, is dishonestly presenting a fake "stuck" captcha check and dishonestly leading the user to believe it's their ad blocker that is to blame, thus tricking them with this "strategy" to disable it.

    I have adblockers, private DNS, and other tools enabled and have never once failed a Cloudflare check. Google recaptcha on the other hand asks me about motorcycles, traffic lights and busses literally dozens of times in a row.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago

    Google recaptcha on the other hand asks me about motorcycles, traffic lights and busses literally dozens of times in a row

    I bet you're using a firefox based browser. There was a brief period years ago when google captchas worked blazingly fast on firefox. This was shortly after mozilla very publicly denounced google for intentionally sabotaging firefox users.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I found it depends on your user agent rather than ad blocker...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children)

    Really? Do you have a source for that or at least what user agents apparently gets cloudflared and don't? Geniuely curious

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  • [–] 23 points 1 day ago

    not ever using that site anymore strategy no %

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    I just enable captcha.cloudflare, not all JS

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    see, the moment that i see an ad is when i re-enable my adblock. at the latest.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 day ago

    If a site doesn't work with adblock enables I don't use it. I never turn that shit off. There is nothing on the internet I need to look at badly enough to do that. If the entire internet stopped working with adblockers I'd stop using it.

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  • [–] 14 points 21 hours ago

    comparisons like these reveal how often companies take advantage of people through rhetoric, when the majority dont know much

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  • [–] 27 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

    Cloudflare is a cancer upon the internet.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    +1.

    I. Fucking. Hate. Cloudflare.

    It's such a huge % of the internet now. Intercepted by cloudflare. Which says I "passed". But then, gets stuck in an endless reload loop back to the cloudflare page. And never forwards me to the site itself.

    Sometimes it does work. But at least half the sites, it doesn't. Totally normal things. Like recipe sites. Or a site cataloging vintage toys.

    This shit is making the internet unusable for anyone who tries to keep their privacy from the co's that track every click you ever make, every site you read. I get it, sites need protection against DDOS attacks and stuff. But there has got to be a way w/o so much collateral damage.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    It's probably because of resistFingerprinting in about:config.

    Unfortunately sites need to use them or someone similar to not get attacked to shit by AI bots. Websites could turn off the challenges (which are that captcha) so Cloudflare just absorbs DDoS attacks, then use the open source Cap inside the site on things like the log in page and comments instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago

    It's probably because of resistFingerprinting in about:config.

    I have it set to false, though... 🤔

    Weird thing is it fails on pages infected with cloudflare (says browser not supported), but cloudflare's own test page claims everything works properly.

    It must have something to do with NoScript, but I have everything remotely related to cloudflare set to trusted, so I don't know what.

    Works in incognito mode, but I don't want to navigate the webwithout ad blocking.

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  • Disable my adblocker?

    No, I don't think I will.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Don't think I've had an adblocker mess with the verification, but I often have to green-light a few things for cloudfare (or other verifier) in uMatrix.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    uMatrix was awesome. It's a massive shame it didn't get any more updates, because it started breaking important sites (like bank authentication) for me just by the addon being enabled even if I turned it off from its own toggle, so I had to switch to NoScript, which is simply worse (far clunkier interface and consistently fails to show all domains).

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I do not bother myself with websites that use cloudflare anymore.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    I imagine this is why the page specific off button in uBlockOrigin is really big; to allow more of the pseudo-random menu detectivery that happens in this situation to find it instead of disabling uBO completely in the settings.

    But this theory kind of insinuates people who don't care about not being advertised to are dumb (or maybe I just thunk that, because I think you have to try knowing things about browsers to be smart).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago

    I think you should stop using 4chan x

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    I sometimes get fandom stuck on that for a bit but refreshing always solves it so I'm not bothered.

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    [–] 22 points 1 day ago

    I just decide the site is not worth visiting

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago

    if I get stuck on a cloudflare site I simply give up. fuck cloudflare.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago

    Doesnt make sense, never had cloudflare block my adblocker.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    Does anyone actually disable the entire adblocker for CF? usually just whitelisting channelges subdomain suffices as the easiest task to do on UBO, and you can go more granular than that if you want.

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